Suwon F-4 retirement June 7, 2024

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Suwon F-4 retirement June 7, 2024

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Not really an airshow where happy folks walk around and see cool arial performances but rather a sad (I thought so) happening of a very capable but old airframe that has to make way for other more capable systems. However it was time to pay tribute to the bomb carrier it was known for that many among us had a special feeling for (and still have).

The ROKAF bid farewell to the mighty F-4 Phantom, June 7th, 2024.

Static
F-4D 50-732 camo c/s wfu, 10 FW, 153 FS
F-4E 60-508 special c/s 10 FW, 153 FS
RF-4C 70-457 10 FW, 153 FS
FA-50 14-018 16 FW, 202 FS
KF-16C 93-093 20 FW
F-15K 08-057 11 FW
F-4E 78-739* camo c/s 10 FW, 153 FS
F-4E 80-743* special c/s 10 FW, 153 FS
*Flying

Revetments decoys
F-4E 60-511 wfu, 10 FW, 153 FS
F-5B 42-125/D-5 as "74-125" wfu camo c/s
F-5’s 2x wfu
RF-4C (70-432/D-1) wfu

Visit
AS.332L2 02-257 235 CSRS
HH-60P 01-716 233 CSRS
HH-60P 01-762 233 CSRS
UH-60P 01869 Jochiwon?
UH-60P 02343 Jochiwon?
UH-60P 93-0507 633 FS

Preserved Main Gate
F-4E 68-330
F-5A 38-408 as "63-408"
F-86F 52-096
F-86K 51-928
Mig 19 529
T-33A 41-554 as "54-554"

Preserved on base
F-86F 50-870 as "55-870"

Flyover/Demo
KF-16D 93-113 tgr "111 FS" 38 FG, 111 FS
FA-50 …/- Black Eagels
FA-50 …/2 Black Eagels
FA-50 …/3 Black Eagels
FA-50 …/4 Black Eagels
FA-50 …/5 Black Eagels
FA-50 …/6 Black Eagels
FA-50 …/7 Black Eagels
FA-50 …/8 Black Eagels

Waive 1
KF-16C ... 20 FW?
KF-16C ... 20 FW?
KF-16C ... 20 FW?
KF-16C ... 20 FW?
KF-16C ... 20 FW?
East to West.

Waive 2
KF-16D 01-528 20 FW
KF-16D 92-030 nb
KF-16C 01-514 20 FW
KF-16C 93-078 20 FW
KF-16C 01-515 20 FW
KF-16C 92-005 2nb

Waive 3
FA-50 15-023 8 FW
FA-50 14-010 8 FW
FA-50 13-006 8 FW
FA-50 16-060 8 FW
FA-50 16-051 8 FW

Waive 4
KF-16C 92-022 19 FW
KF-16C 93-055 19 FW

Waive 5
F-15K 02-004 11 FW
F-15K 02-002 11 FW
F-15K 02-022 11 FW
KF-16C 92-019 19 FW
KF-16C 92-011 19 FW
KF-16C 93-084 19 FW
F-35A (19-)011 17 FW
F-35A (19-)015 17 FW
F-35A (19-)007 17 FW

Waive 6
F-35A … 17 FW
F-35A … 17 FW
F-35A … 17 FW
West to East.


With thanks to the ROKAF and Korean MinDef for their hospitality. It was truly an amazing event to have been part off. A sad gathering but a great venue to pay tribute to this amazing airframe.


Tally.

Ps. Any gap fillers you might have please do let me know.
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Re: Suwon F-4 retirement June 7, 2024

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The 3 F-35's are;
(19-)011
(19-)015
(19-)007

I would assume that wave 6 was consisting of different aircraft as they were too fast behind wave 5. But nothing noted from that
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Re: Suwon F-4 retirement June 7, 2024

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Shirley wrote: 11 Jun 2024, 10:02 The 3 F-35's are;
(19-)011
(19-)015
(19-)007

I would assume that wave 6 was consisting of different aircraft as they were too fast behind wave 5. But nothing noted from that
Thanks for the update.

Waive 6 could be different. I noticed the F-35's of waive 5 peeling off to the west after their fly-by therefore I assumed they setup for their west to east fly-by.
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Re: Suwon F-4 retirement June 7, 2024

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for sure wave 6 consisted of 3 other aircraft as i have seen this flypast on 3 different days :-)
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Re: Suwon F-4 retirement June 7, 2024

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just wondering: could the two F-16's from waive 4 and the three F-16's from waive 5 be the same as the 5 from wave 1 ?
There was enough time in between.

Agree with Dino: the F-35's in wave 6 are for sure different ones than those in wave 5, there was not enough time to reposition (as was the case on May 31 and June 05)! Unfortunately, no numbers are readable on my pics.

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Re: Suwon F-4 retirement June 7, 2024

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HansW wrote: 11 Jun 2024, 18:40 just wondering: could the two F-16's from waive 4 and the three F-16's from waive 5 be the same as the 5 from wave 1 ?
There was enough time in between.

Agree with Dino: the F-35's in wave 6 are for sure different ones than those in wave 5, there was not enough time to reposition (as was the case on May 31 and June 05)! Unfortunately, no numbers are readable on my pics.

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055 which was one of the two aircraft presented as RF-16's had a targeting pod on the intake. None of the five F-16's from wave 1 that crossed the runway had a targeting pod so despite that there was enough time it weren't the same aircaft. Also the two "RF-16's" were supposed to be from 19FW and had no markings opposed to the 20FW aircraft in the nine ship formation.
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Re: Suwon F-4 retirement June 7, 2024

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Fishbed_9307 wrote: 11 Jun 2024, 20:19
HansW wrote: 11 Jun 2024, 18:40 just wondering: could the two F-16's from waive 4 and the three F-16's from waive 5 be the same as the 5 from wave 1 ?
There was enough time in between.

Agree with Dino: the F-35's in wave 6 are for sure different ones than those in wave 5, there was not enough time to reposition (as was the case on May 31 and June 05)! Unfortunately, no numbers are readable on my pics.

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055 which was one of the two aircraft presented as RF-16's had a targeting pod on the intake. None of the five F-16's from wave 1 that crossed the runway had a targeting pod so despite that there was enough time it weren't the same aircaft. Also the two "RF-16's" were supposed to be from 19FW and had no markings opposed to the 20FW aircraft in the nine ship formation.

I concur the airframes were different Fishbed.
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HansW wrote: 11 Jun 2024, 18:40 just wondering: could the two F-16's from waive 4 and the three F-16's from waive 5 be the same as the 5 from wave 1 ?
There was enough time in between.

Agree with Dino: the F-35's in wave 6 are for sure different ones than those in wave 5, there was not enough time to reposition (as was the case on May 31 and June 05)! Unfortunately, no numbers are readable on my pics.

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I agree after review of my pics. There were about 30-40 sec between the two F-35 formation fly-by's so that would be rather sporty for a three ship to turn 270 degrees and perform a second fly-over.
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Re: Suwon F-4 retirement June 7, 2024

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tally wrote: 11 Jun 2024, 22:17
Fishbed_9307 wrote: 11 Jun 2024, 20:19
HansW wrote: 11 Jun 2024, 18:40 just wondering: could the two F-16's from waive 4 and the three F-16's from waive 5 be the same as the 5 from wave 1 ?
There was enough time in between.

Agree with Dino: the F-35's in wave 6 are for sure different ones than those in wave 5, there was not enough time to reposition (as was the case on May 31 and June 05)! Unfortunately, no numbers are readable on my pics.

Rgds.
055 which was one of the two aircraft presented as RF-16's had a targeting pod on the intake. None of the five F-16's from wave 1 that crossed the runway had a targeting pod so despite that there was enough time it weren't the same aircaft. Also the two "RF-16's" were supposed to be from 19FW and had no markings opposed to the 20FW aircraft in the nine ship formation.

I concur the airframes were different Fishbed.
check the smoke pods ;-) the first group of F-16's had these special smoke pods under their wing and are easy to identify
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Re: Suwon F-4 retirement June 7, 2024

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dinovandoorn wrote: 11 Jun 2024, 22:23
tally wrote: 11 Jun 2024, 22:17
Fishbed_9307 wrote: 11 Jun 2024, 20:19

055 which was one of the two aircraft presented as RF-16's had a targeting pod on the intake. None of the five F-16's from wave 1 that crossed the runway had a targeting pod so despite that there was enough time it weren't the same aircaft. Also the two "RF-16's" were supposed to be from 19FW and had no markings opposed to the 20FW aircraft in the nine ship formation.

I concur the airframes were different Fishbed.
check the smoke pods ;-) the first group of F-16's had these special smoke pods under their wing and are easy to identify
I didn’t mean the six ship from formation 2 Dino (which had the indeed easily identifiable smoke pods but the five ship that came from our six o’clock position compared to the two aircraft that made some manoeuvres and the thee ship in the formation with the Eagles and the F-35’s. I thought that was was Hans meant.

Also the press kit indicates that the first five aircraft (which came from our six o'clock) were "F-16's" so presumably the older block 32 aircraft, while the others were mentioned specifically as KF-16's and two RF-16s.)
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Re: Suwon F-4 retirement June 7, 2024

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Yes. We are all on the same page now: waive 1 had indeed 5 different F-16's and waive 6 had 3 different F-35's. So this leaves us with the question: who has been able to identify (some of) them ?
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