PALIS Foundation Storage - Kalivia 11 April 2024

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Re: PALIS Foundation Storage - Kalivia 11 April 2024

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r.e.hendriks wrote: 13 Apr 2024, 22:34 Hi all,

We had the opportunity to visit the storage area of the PALIS foundation in Kalivia.
Below a log of what we saw. Only two aircraft remained unidentified, so help on these would be very welcome.

34 Y-5 nn Albanian AF broken up
FX-52 F-104G nn BAF broken up Tail of FX-02
AX246 Anson I nn RCAF broken up
427 CM-170 nn FAF broken up
235 Mirage IIIB-1 nn FAF broken up
DD+384 F-84F nn GAF broken up
99+38 G-91R/3 nn GAF broken up
93+11 Mi-8T nn GAF rotorless Marked as “925”
20+08 MiG-23MF nn GAF broken up
1703 MiG-21PF nn Polish AF broken up
9292 MiG-21UM nn Polish AF broken up Tiger mks.
805 SBLim-2 nn Polish AF broken up Marked as “301”
22 Su-7BKL nn Polish AF broken up
3909 Su-22M-4 nn Polish AF
1920 TS-11 bis-DF nn Polish AF broken up
35329/29 J-35D nn Swedish AF broken up
WT537 Canberra PR.7 nn RAF broken up
XW421/60 Jet Provost T.5A nn RAF broken up
XM660 Whirlwind HAS.7 nn RAF rotorless
ZD991/722 Harrier T.8 nn RN broken up
ZE693/718 Sea Harrier F/A.2 nn RN broken up
ZH809 Sea Harrier F/A.2 nn RN broken up
XS876/PO-523 Wessex HAS.1 nn RN rotorless
10563/563 F-84G nn Yugoslav AF broken up
14. . . /. . . F-86D nn Yugoslav AF broken up
11082/082 F-86E nn Yugoslav AF broken up
23649/649 G-4 nn Yugoslav AF broken up
25112/112 J-2 nn Yugoslav AF broken up
SP-WXH Mi-2 nn Civil Poland rotorless
SP-ZXP Mi-2 nn Civil Poland rotorless
1x T-6 Havard nn Unknown broken up yellow c/s

Best regards Rob.
Eurodemobbed and the database have the German F-84F as DD+348

Can you confirm the Sea Harrier FA2s. Eurodemobbed have three listed but there were only two present in May 2017, but I wasn't able to identify them.
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Re: PALIS Foundation Storage - Kalivia 11 April 2024

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Laurent wrote: 14 Apr 2024, 15:32 Nice log, but can you please give the definition of 'broken up', do you mean that all the aircraft have been scrapped ?
The aircraft are dismantled, not broken up.
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Re: PALIS Foundation Storage - Kalivia 11 April 2024

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r.e.hendriks wrote: 15 Apr 2024, 09:59
Laurent wrote: 14 Apr 2024, 15:32 Hi,

Nice log, but can you please give the definition of 'broken up', do you mean that all the aircraft have been scrapped ?

Looking forward to your reply.

Kind regards,

Laurent
With this in mean.... the aircraft are not in one piece. Fuselages are parked next to each other. Wings are stored all together. Sometimes the tail is missing and stored with other tails. Most of them are complete, but not in one piece.
OK, Thank you for the update !
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Re: PALIS Foundation Storage - Kalivia 11 April 2024

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747woody wrote: 15 Apr 2024, 23:12
Eurodemobbed and the database have the German F-84F as DD+348

Can you confirm the Sea Harrier FA2s. Eurodemobbed have three listed but there were only two present in May 2017, but I wasn't able to identify them.
The F-84F was indeed a typo... must be DD+348.
We saw three... the three mentioned above...
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Re: PALIS Foundation Storage - Kalivia 11 April 2024

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pluggie wrote: 16 Apr 2024, 08:04
Laurent wrote: 14 Apr 2024, 15:32 Nice log, but can you please give the definition of 'broken up', do you mean that all the aircraft have been scrapped ?
The aircraft are dismantled, not broken up.
Thanks Krijn...

That was the word I was looking for....
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Re: PALIS Foundation Storage - Kalivia 11 April 2024

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Hallo Rob,

What kind of livery did the two Mi-2's ?
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Re: PALIS Foundation Storage - Kalivia 11 April 2024

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GUINNESS_EHEH wrote: 16 Apr 2024, 21:13 Hallo Rob,

What kind of livery did the two Mi-2's ?
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Re: PALIS Foundation Storage - Kalivia 11 April 2024

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Hi Rob,

trying to identify aircraft for my photos, most were still well wrapped when I had a look around in May 2017. Yours is the first report I've seen since then.

The main line up was in this order, and I'm guessing they don't move very often, if at all!

J-35 35329
F-104G FX-52
Sea Harrier F/A2
An-2 34
F-84
MiG 23 (20+08)
Mirage III 235
MiG 21
F-84
Su 7 (22)
MiG 15UTI '301' (805)
TS-11 (1920)
Harrier T8 ZD991
Sea Harrier F/A2
F-86
F-86
G91 99+38
G4 (23649)
MiG 21 green nose cone
CM 170 427
T-6 yellow (41-32899)
JP T5 XW421
J-22 25(112)
Anson frame (AX246)

Can you fill in the gaps, and confirm which is which regarding the F-84s, F-86s, MiG 21s and Sea Harrier F/A2s?

Aerial Visuals list another MiG 21 1812, which in photos has a green nose cone, while 1703 has a red one!
Eurodemobbed list a third Sea Harrier F/A2 ZD608 which I didn't see, and a MiG 21UM cockpit 5709 (was listed as a MiG 17!) There were three other cockpit sections with the A-7, one of which looks lke a MiG 21UM (it was wrapped up).

https://www.flickr.com/photos/68498610@ ... 316287999/
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Re: PALIS Foundation Storage - Kalivia 11 April 2024

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747woody wrote: 17 Apr 2024, 11:24 Hi Rob,

trying to identify aircraft for my photos, most were still well wrapped when I had a look around in May 2017. Yours is the first report I've seen since then.

The main line up was in this order, and I'm guessing they don't move very often, if at all!

J-35 35329
F-104G FX-52
Sea Harrier F/A2 ZE693
An-2 34
F-84 DD+348
MiG 23 (20+08)
Mirage III 235
MiG 21 9292
F-84 10563
Su 7 (22)
MiG 15UTI '301' (805)
TS-11 (1920)
Harrier T8 ZD991
Sea Harrier F/A2 ZH809
F-86 11082
F-86 unknown
G91 99+38
G4 (23649)
MiG 21 green nose cone 1703
CM 170 427
T-6 yellow (41-32899)
JP T5 XW421
J-22 25(112)
Anson frame (AX246)

Can you fill in the gaps, and confirm which is which regarding the F-84s, F-86s, MiG 21s and Sea Harrier F/A2s?

Aerial Visuals list another MiG 21 1812, which in photos has a green nose cone, while 1703 has a red one!
Eurodemobbed list a third Sea Harrier F/A2 ZD608 which I didn't see, and a MiG 21UM cockpit 5709 (was listed as a MiG 17!) There were three other cockpit sections with the A-7, one of which looks lke a MiG 21UM (it was wrapped up).

https://www.flickr.com/photos/68498610@ ... 316287999/
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Re: PALIS Foundation Storage - Kalivia 11 April 2024

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Excellent, thanks Rob :D
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