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2023: Wagner-boss Prigozhin killed in Embraer EMB-135BJ Legacy bizjet RA-02795 incident.., ...

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Sabotage?
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witje wrote: 23 Aug 2023, 19:24Sabotage?

No, karma
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It can’t be called sabotage anymore. Videos online show his plane got shot down by air defences.
They even didn’t try to conceal he had to die
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michel N wrote: 23 Aug 2023, 19:51 They even didn’t try to conceal he had to die
I think the whole point is that Putin wants to show his people what happens with traitors. Some of the video footage that is now circulating may actually have been made for that purpose.
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...rumours now circulating this may have been an "air-to-air kill",
i.e. / oftewel ,
a fighter jet firing a missile would then have to be involved... :|

...Time will tell... :|

In the meantime:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/b ... -in-russia
sums things up nicely, for now....
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Evening Gents, the masters of disinformation are at it again he will turn up in a few months time when good and ready. This has all signs of a standard soviet operation. He is still operating under there control and doing there dirty work for them.
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Remember folks, you heard this first from ‘Blackhawk101’ with his five posts.
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Is this the CEO of the frozen pizza's?
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Can we now finally say 'damn, I still needed that plane', or is that still inappropriate?
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This video shows the fall of the Embraer jet from a little bit earlier then other videos.
https://twitter.com/Archer83Able/status ... 24/video/1
At the very begining of the video, a white disrupted smoke trail can be spotted on the left. It doesn't look like a jet's engine smoke trail.
I have neither expertise or science in the field, but remembering of the USAF shoot downs of hot air balloons a few months ago, doesn't it look like a missile trail ?
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I'm no expert either, but that very much indeed look so! Also note the smoke trail appears to have come from lower then the actual aircraft dwindling down at that point, thus suggesting it to likely be a SAM in that case.

As Hamarö pointed out, Valdai is a viable option in that case (knowing these S300 thingies could be mobile as well, but Valdai has several designated pads layed out throughout the base. The plane stopped tracking at 18:11lt (15:11UTC) on a north western heading. The video seems to have been shot towards the north east looking at the light and the smoke (trail) appears to have come from the left (the direction where Valdai is).

Just my 2cts in this plot. :mrgreen:
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I guess you can. If you still need it... :oops:
Was it civil or military?
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ehusmann wrote: 24 Aug 2023, 09:01 Can we now finally say 'damn, I still needed that plane', or is that still inappropriate?
Asking for a friend, of course.
Ask your friend if he already has the Russian AF1, just in case this escalates further...
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Alpha Kilo One wrote: 24 Aug 2023, 10:33 I guess you can. If you still need it... :oops:
Was it civil or military?
Think it qualifies as private military. :fadein:
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The aircraft crashed close to near Kuzhenkino (BBC news),

There is a very vey large arsenal with the name Kuzhenkino arsenal, and one more arsenal just close to the first near the airbase.
Both with railway connection and even own railway station. The both railway stations have many sidetracks.

What is the use of these arsenals.

What had happened if the aircraft crashed on the wrong place.
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