ISIS shot down ex Belgium Jordanian F-16 over Syria,

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Re: ISIS shot down ex Belgium Jordanian F-16 over Syria,

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Probably he/she means the "downed/neergeschoten" part of the quote is nonsense, as the jet more likely seems to have crashed following a malfunction, but this was not known yet at the time.
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Yes, probably, but a full sentence would have prevented speculation ;-)
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Trabanti wrote:Probably he/she means the "downed/neergeschoten" part of the quote is nonsense, as the jet more likely seems to have crashed following a malfunction, but this was not known yet at the time.
Oh well, the subject-title can be corrected if requested... :twisted:
Something like "ex-Belgium Jordanian F-16 lost over IS-held Syria" :wink:
It ticks all the boxes. :mrgreen:

If it turns out to be another airframe then the boys over at
http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F ... ofile/839/
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Trabanti wrote:Probably he/she means the "downed/neergeschoten" part of the quote is nonsense, as the jet more likely seems to have crashed following a malfunction, but this was not known yet at the time.
No, that is not what I mean, have no info about how it went down. I am just amazed Mr. Hiltermann is so ill-informed about some of the other details. Does he have a shitty source or was he just testing Twitter to see how fast BS can go viral?
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orange wrote:No, that is not what I mean, have no info about how it went down. I am just amazed Mr. Hiltermann is so ill-informed about some of the other details. Does he have a shitty source or was he just testing Twitter to see how fast BS can go viral?
:please!: AFAIK, this guy merely mentioned it was the former FA-78 which by the way has not yet been contested?
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I am also very curious about what happened, but can we please try to communicate in a "polite" and "modest" way?

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orange wrote: No, that is not what I mean, have no info about how it went down. I am just amazed Mr. Hiltermann is so ill-informed about some of the other details. Does he have a shitty source or was he just testing Twitter to see how fast BS can go viral?
It would have been better if you stated this in an earlier stage.
As it stands your one liner "Nonsense" is an answer to the posting I made and not to Mr. Hilterman. And that also caused confusion.
I hope you can understand my side.
Perhaps we can say, that lessons learned from this is te be more specific.
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orange wrote:
Trabanti wrote:Probably he/she means the "downed/neergeschoten" part of the quote is nonsense, as the jet more likely seems to have crashed following a malfunction, but this was not known yet at the time.
No, that is not what I mean, have no info about how it went down. I am just amazed Mr. Hiltermann is so ill-informed about some of the other details. Does he have a shitty source or was he just testing Twitter to see how fast BS can go viral?
As it seems that you are able to tell the info is not correct, I trust you have a reliable source which can tell us what the correct details are? And would you be so kind to share it here with us?
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Re: ISIS shot down ex Belgium Jordanian F-16 over Syria,

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...some sort of update I suppose...

Is the identity of the F-16 concerned now confirmed :?:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 13262.html

Friday 30 January 2015

Jordan 'could fast-track execution' of Isis prisoners if hostage fighter pilot Muath al-Kasaesbeh is killed

Jordan has reportedly threatened to expedite the trials of prisoners affiliated with Isis, some of whom may face the death penalty,
if the group kills a Jordanian pilot it is holding hostage.


In its most recent video, Isis demanded Sajida al-Rishawi be released to the group by sunset in Mosul on Thursday, warning that it would kill Muath al-Kasaesbeh “immediately” if this did not happen.

Al-Rishawi was sentenced to death by hanging in Jordan after being linked to bomb attacks that killed 60 people. She is appealing her sentence.

Elijah Magnier,
chief international correspondent for Kuwait's Al Rai newspaper,
said he was informed this morning by a contact related to the Jordanian Government
that Jordan had passed on a message threatening
to fast track al-Rishawi's appeal and the executions of "jihadist prisoners close to Isis".

The Independent understands that Jordan will still follow due process,
but could speed up the pending trials of prisoners suspected of being affiliated with Isis if the pilot is killed.

Some of those detainees are understood to face charges that if convicted carry the death penalty.

This has not been confirmed by the Jordanian Government.

Jordan warned it would not hand over al-Rishawi unless it received proof the pilot had not been killed.

It says it is still waiting for proof of life.
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Well, we know now what happened to that unfortunate Jordanian F-16 pilot... :evil: Image

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-31121160
Jordanian state TV confirmed the death and said he was killed a month ago.

US President Barack Obama said that if the video was real, it would redouble the determination of the coalition against IS to degrade and destroy it, Reuters reported.
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