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Re: Nordholz Airday 18 Aug 2013 - 100 Jahr Marineflieger

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[quote="perrie"]Thanks PIK Flyer, might go tomorrow to have a look. Where's the Sea King hangar located?
Anyone some numbers from today? Thanks!

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The Sea King hangar is right beside the main static area.
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Re: Nordholz Airday 18 Aug 2013 - 100 Jahr Marineflieger

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In my option, 4 Orion are present and active at Norholz, 60+01,03,05,07
01 and 05 on static, leaves the ohter two, but I'm not 100% sure, so anyone else could confirm or correct this!
Today 60+07 and 60+04 operated from the other side. This morning 07 taxied along the crowdline because of the bad weather and in the afternoon 04 (after 07 broke down) flew.

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Re: Nordholz Airday 18 Aug 2013 - 100 Jahr Marineflieger

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I've asked about the 83+55, it's a GIA, which was build as a ground trainer, never intended to be airworthy.
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Re: Nordholz Airday 18 Aug 2013 - 100 Jahr Marineflieger

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Hi,

Lynx 83+55 had on it's tail : Lynx no 258.

Which would make it the ex Lynx Mk.88 83+07 before it was updated to Lynx Mk.88A and c/n 421

So I think the old airframe of 83+07 was reused for the GIA airframe.

Anyone an idea why it is serialed 83+55 and not any other number.
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Re: Nordholz Airday 18 Aug 2013 - 100 Jahr Marineflieger

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Which 5 Sea Kings were in the closed hangar bay? (please specify front and back as the back row looked like they were in maintenance)

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Re: Nordholz Airday 18 Aug 2013 - 100 Jahr Marineflieger

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DJMikey wrote: 1 ex gaf Do. 28 was landing around 14lt, grey c/s. Serial?
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D-ICDY/58+89 Do28 Luftwaffe
D-IRES/59+11 Do28 Marine, this 2-tone grey one fly together with the Do228 and landed later on...
grtz. Attila the Hun.

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Re: Nordholz Airday 18 Aug 2013 - 100 Jahr Marineflieger

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Canberra TT.18 wrote:Hi,

Lynx 83+55 had on it's tail : Lynx no 258.

Which would make it the ex Lynx Mk.88 83+07 before it was updated to Lynx Mk.88A and c/n 421

So I think the old airframe of 83+07 was reused for the GIA airframe.

Anyone an idea why it is serialed 83+55 and not any other number.
Pieter

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... or mayby only the tail!
grtz. Attila the Hun.

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Re: Nordholz Airday 18 Aug 2013 - 100 Jahr Marineflieger

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EHAM wrote:Here a quick and dirty log, straight from the booklet:
57+04 Do 228
60+01 P-3 Orion
60+05 P-3 Orion
83+20 SuperLynx
89+51 Seaking
89+53 Seaking
89+54 Seaking
89+55 Seaking
89+63 Seaking
89+65 Seaking
89+67 Seaking
89+68 Seaking
89+70 Seaking
98+35 Do 228
Only the MFG fixed-wing aircraft and helicopter, what I think could be correct(!)

60+01 P-3C Orion (spec. c/s)
60+04 P-3C Orion (other side off field)
60+05 P-3C Orion (static)
60+07 P-3C Orion (other side off field)

83+?? Super Lynx (friday) <== ???
83+17 Super Lynx (friday)
83+20 Super Lynx (spec. c/s)
83+24 Super Lynx (friday)
83+55 Super Lynx Mk.88A (friday + saterday hangar, GIA i/a, ex Sea Lynx Mk.88 83+07 ???)

hangar Left (5x Sea King), hangar Middle (3x Seaking), in front of hangar (2x Sea King), Medevac (1x Sea King), spec c/s (1x Sea King), friday (2x Sea King)
89+?? Sea King (hangar Left nr. taped off) <== ???
89+51 Sea King (hangar)
89+52 Sea King (hangar) ==> photo proof
89+53 Sea King (hangar)
89+54 Sea King (hangar)
89+55 Sea King (spec. c/s)
89+56 Sea King (hangar Middle nr. taped off) ==> self read
89+57 Sea King (friday) ==> photo proof
89+63 Sea King (hangar)
89+65 Sea King (in front of hangar)
89+67 Sea King (hangar)
89+68 Sea King (in front of hangar)
89+70 Sea King (friday + saterday Medevac/flying)

57+04 Do 228 (hangar)
98+35 Do 228 (friday + saterday other side off field/flying)
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Re: Nordholz Airday 18 Aug 2013 - 100 Jahr Marineflieger

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attila.szabo wrote:89+?? Sea King (hangar Left nr. taped off) <== ???
8960

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Re: Nordholz Airday 18 Aug 2013 - 100 Jahr Marineflieger

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ehusmann wrote:
attila.szabo wrote:89+?? Sea King (hangar Left nr. taped off) <== ???
8960

Erwin
i can confirm this.
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Re: Nordholz Airday 18 Aug 2013 - 100 Jahr Marineflieger

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This is a log from sunday during the open day/airshow

Static
RH-28 H rood Saab 105ÖE Düsentrainerstaffel
FA-110 GE-X F-16AM 349 Smd (special c/s)
FB-24 F-16BM OCU (25 years OCU c/s)
9767 Mi.171Š 231.vrl
9837 Mi.171Š 231.vrl
86+47 Bö.105P HFWS
86+49 Bö.105P KHR 26 (special c/s)
50+79 C.160D LTG 63
82+53 EC.135T1 HFWS
82+62 EC.135T1 HFWS
D-HCDL EC.135P2+ MFG 5 (leased by GN)
70+88 UH-1D LTG 61 (special SAR c/s)
72+27 UH-1D no marks/THR 10
89+65 Sea king Mk.41 MFG 5
89+68 Sea king Mk.41 MFG 5
89+71 Sea king Mk.41 MFG 5
84+74 CH-53G no marks/MTHR 15
D-CGFE Learjet 36A GFD
83+19 Lynx Mk.88A MFG 5
60+01 P-3C CUP MFG 3 (special c/s)
60+05 P-3C CUP MFG 3
D-HEGO AS.332L1 Bundespolizei
46+57 Tornado ECR AG 51 (artic tiger c/s)
S-181 Lynx Mk.90B Esk 723
OH-MVN Do.228-212 Rajavartiolaitos
17 Atlantique 2 21F
XV670 17 Sea king HU.5SAR 771 Sqn
ZA718 BN Chinook HC.4 18/27 Sqn
ZZ396 Wildcat HMA.2 700(W) Sqn
LX-N90446 E-3A NAEW&CF
PH-CGN Do.228-212 Kustwacht
N 175 NH.90 NFH 860 Sqn
1114 M.28B-1R MPA 3 dlot
N434FS A-4N BAe Flight Systems

Hangar
57+04 Do.228-212LM MFG 3

Hangar (right bay)
ZZ413 Wildcat HMA.2 700(W) Sqn

Hangar (middle bay)
89+52 Sea king Mk.41 MFG 5
89+53 Sea king Mk.41 MFG 5
89+56 Sea king Mk.41 MFG 5
83+55 Lynx Mk.88A i/a

Hangar (left bay)
89+51 Sea king Mk.41 MFG 5
89+54 Sea king Mk.41 MFG 5
89+60 Sea king Mk.41 MFG 5
89+63 Sea king Mk.41 MFG 5
89+67 Sea king Mk.41 MFG 5

Static behind Hangar
D-FAMT PC.9 E.I.S. Aircraft
45+30 Tornado IDS pres. (special MFG 2 c/s)

Behind tower
71+12 UH-1D LTG 61 SAR
89+57 Sea king Mk.41 MFG 5

Flightline (Lynx platform)
89+55 Sea king Mk.41 MFG 5 (special c/s)
89+61 Sea king Mk.41 MFG 5
83+17 Lynx Mk.88A MFG 5
83+20 Lynx Mk.88A MFG 5 (special c/s)
83+24 Lynx Mk.88A MFG 5

Hangar
83+18 Lynx Mk.88A MFG 5

Flightline (other side runway)
RF-26 Saab 105ÖE Düsentrainerstaffel (40 tiger c/s)
86+51 Bö.105P HFWS (deu flag c/s)
98+35 Do.228NG MFG 3
60+04 P-3C CUP MFG 3
60+07 P-3C CUP MFG 3

Flying
1x EC.155B Bundespolizei

The Bundespolizei EC.155 made a flyby around 12.30. Anybody for the serial ?

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Re: Nordholz Airday 18 Aug 2013 - 100 Jahr Marineflieger

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Canberra TT.18 wrote:Hi,
Lynx 83+55 had on it's tail : Lynx no 258.
Which would make it the ex Lynx Mk.88 83+07 before it was updated to Lynx Mk.88A and c/n 421
So I think the old airframe of 83+07 was reused for the GIA airframe.
Anyone an idea why it is serialed 83+55 and not any other number.
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This Lynx is a difficult one.
It has been reported as the former Westerland Sylt instructional airframe
and has been refurbished by Eurocopter to its present standard.
The markings on the tail were first reported at Nordholz and seem a later addition to the airframe.
The c/n has been checked at Sylt and is c/n 350.
Norwegian Lynx 235 crashed in 1988 and was send to Westland for rebuild using parts from Lynx c/n 350
The c/n plate of 235 has been checked after it returned to service and still carries c/n 235 on its original plate
The original cockpit of 235 has been rebuild to flight simulator and is now at Kjevik.
How much of c/n 350 was used in the original Sylt Lynx and how much of it is still left now it is at Nordholz remains to be seen.
Anyone more info on this Lynx of its Norwegian counterpart?

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Re: Nordholz Airday 18 Aug 2013 - 100 Jahr Marineflieger

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The Bundespolizei EC.155 made a flyby around 12.30. Anybody for the serial ?
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Re: Nordholz Airday 18 Aug 2013 - 100 Jahr Marineflieger

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ehusmann wrote:
attila.szabo wrote:89+?? Sea King (hangar Left nr. taped off) <== ???
8960

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Sorry guys: Incorrect!
Left side:
89+54
89+56 (taped!)
89+67
89+51
89+63
Right side:
83+55
89+52
89+53
I've spent some time in the hangars.
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Re: Nordholz Airday 18 Aug 2013 - 100 Jahr Marineflieger

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attila.szabo wrote:
Ronny wrote:It's the 71+12.
Does someone has the serials of the 2 P-3's in the hangar at the other site of the airfield?
Grtz.
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In my option, 4 Orion are present and active at Norholz, 60+01,03,05,07
01 and 05 on static, leaves the ohter two, but I'm not 100% sure, so anyone else could confirm or correct this!

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Dear Attila,

there was also an unmarked P-3 in the area where the ceremony 100 years Naval Aviation was held, this MIGHT be the instructional airframe. I cannot confirm this, but obviously there is also another P-3 on the field.

Gr R
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