Spotting At Pakistani Bases ?

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Spotting At Pakistani Bases ?

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I want to spot some birds of the Pakistan Air Force and take a couple of photographs like F-7P, Mirage 3/5 and F-16A/B Falcons....
The airbases that I am planning to visit are :-
1- Masroor Airbase, Karachi, Pakistan ( home of F-7P's and Mirage 3's )

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2- Mushaf Airbase, Sargodha, Pakistan ( home of F-16's )

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So, anyone could help me ?? Where would be the perfect location to spot these birds on take-off or on short-finals ??
Please help me out guys.
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yasirbhojani wrote:I want to spot some birds of the Pakistan Air Force and take a couple of photographs like F-7P, Mirage 3/5 and F-16A/B Falcons....
The airbases that I am planning to visit are :-
1- Masroor Airbase, Karachi, Pakistan ( home of F-7P's and Mirage 3's )

http://media.photobucket.com/image/PAF% ... an/079.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

2- Mushaf Airbase, Sargodha, Pakistan ( home of F-16's )

http://media.photobucket.com/image/PAF% ... Mushaf.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So, anyone could help me ?? Where would be the perfect location to spot these birds on take-off or on short-finals ??
Please help me out guys.
Assuming that you know how to assess the situation on the spot;

Masroor has a perfect spot when they land from the west.

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Could anyone mark the area near the airbase in the given images so that I may know that exactly from which street should I come, so that I can easily spot Paf aircrafts ??
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I doubt if spotting there is exactly accepted as a hobby.. I'd be very cautious.
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That, you can leave to me. I recently spotted some P-3 Orions and Atlantiques on Paf Base Faisal and filmed them too. Actually, they were parked on the ramp but I filmed them very cleverly without being noticed. I plan to do the same when I visit these airbases. And besides, I am not the only one to spot and film or photograph aircrafts without being noticed, you know. We are military enthusiast but due to security reasons in Pakistan, we don't get much chances of actually spotting even a parked aircraft and spotting an F-16 is like a dream to us. So, most people do these kind of stuffs like photographing without being noticed etc. So, any help now ?
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yasirbhojani wrote:That, you can leave to me. I recently spotted some P-3 Orions and Atlantiques on Paf Base Faisal and filmed them too. Actually, they were parked on the ramp but I filmed them very cleverly without being noticed. I plan to do the same when I visit these airbases. And besides, I am not the only one to spot and film or photograph aircrafts without being noticed, you know. We are military enthusiast but due to security reasons in Pakistan, we don't get much chances of actually spotting even a parked aircraft and spotting an F-16 is like a dream to us. So, most people do these kind of stuffs like photographing without being noticed etc. So, any help now ?
All clear. Looking forward to your logs and pics (also from your recent visit to Mehran)!

Never been to Masroor, but judging by the description and the Google images I would suggest the area on the west side of the base. It looks like an urban area that is being developed. Any spot just north of the new roads look fine from above.

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Thanks. And any idea about Sargodha ?
Actually, I am new at this forum. I've just signed up one or two hours ago. I will be uploading my photographs shortly but most of my photographs are actually self-satisfactory and you might not get satisfied by the resolution or quality but I still will be uploading them. I spotted C-130E's too at Chaklala airbase but that time, I didn't had a high-quality camera and so, I was forced to photograph them with my mobile phone and so, they are not of good quality. But now, I am looking forward to film some F-16's at Sargodha, though, I am not even sure that roaming around the airbase would be allowed or not as it is the most important airbase of Pakistan, I guess. Anyways, thanks for helping me out with this.
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yasirbhojani wrote:That, you can leave to me. I recently spotted some P-3 Orions and Atlantiques on Paf Base Faisal and filmed them too. Actually, they were parked on the ramp but I filmed them very cleverly without being noticed. I plan to do the same when I visit these airbases. And besides, I am not the only one to spot and film or photograph aircrafts without being noticed, you know. We are military enthusiast but due to security reasons in Pakistan, we don't get much chances of actually spotting even a parked aircraft and spotting an F-16 is like a dream to us. So, most people do these kind of stuffs like photographing without being noticed etc. So, any help now ?
OK no problem! Good luck and indeed looking forward to your sightings.
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K. But don't anyone of you have any idea about Mushaf, Sargodha ?? I've got to spot some F-16's because spottting F-16 is like a dream to me..So, please, anyone ??
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I would suggest contacting the Pakistani Air force and asking for cooperation. Offer them a complete set of pictures to be used by them for magazines/advertising.

In such countries it is often better to work "out in the open" instead of trying to photograph "without being noticed". Doing the last will make you very suspicious. The last thing you would want is to be arrested and "interrogated" by Pakistani officials. It may prove to be very bad for your health.......
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Wildpicture wrote:I would suggest contacting the Pakistani Air force and asking for cooperation. Offer them a complete set of pictures to be used by them for magazines/advertising.

In such countries it is often better to work "out in the open" instead of trying to photograph "without being noticed". Doing the last will make you very suspicious. The last thing you would want is to be arrested and "interrogated" by Pakistani officials. It may prove to be very bad for your health.......
I get the feeling that yasirbhojani is operating from within Pakistan. So 'such' country is probably 'his' country and I will leave it up to him to do whatever he is comfortable with.
yasirbhojani wrote:K. But don't anyone of you have any idea about Mushaf, Sargodha ?? I've got to spot some F-16's because spottting F-16 is like a dream to me..So, please, anyone ??
I do not have any info on Sargodha. Judging by the images on Google Maps/Earth only runway 14/32 is being used. The appraoch of runway 32 shows a urbanised area (although you might be facing the sun there). The alternative being the open area to the west of that. The same goes for runway 14.

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It is true indeed. I can't beleive that I forgot to mention that I am a Pakistani myself. Lolz. But these days, I am in Dubai, UAE. I tried to spot some UAEAF birds like the F-16E/F Block 60 vipers or Mirage 2000's at Al Dhafra airbase but had no luck at it, since I wasn't only able to get even near to that area. I am planning a trip to Pakistan back again for two or three weeks in which I shall visit my home city Karachi i.e Paf Masroor and then I'll leave for Sargodha where I plan to visit Paf Mushaf. And, in case if anyone of you doesn't know, there is an urban area behind the PAF museum in Karachi. There, all the junk aircrafts are placed like a busted F-6, F-86 sabre etc. Just in that area, I had noticed a busted Mi-24 Hind which was really shocking. It was like, I said to myself " What's a Mi-24 Hind doing in a Paf graveyard ? ". I tried to film it but unfortunately a guy caught me. He asked me very scary questions like what did I see in that area, why had I been in that area etc. I pretended to be a stupid kid and left with solid pictures of that Mi-24 Hind. I didn't let him know that I was an air enthusiast and that I knew that the chopper was Mi-24 Hind. Similarly, I have been enforced into such situations several times. I tried to film a C-130E at Paf Chaklala just standing on the ramp. I realized that a guy was staring at me continously. I left that area as quick as I could but I didn't ran otherwise he would have thought wrong about me. So, you see, since I am just 16 ( I don't even look like 16 though ), nobody catches me doing these stuff because I am mostly considered as an adventurous stupid kid . Thanks for the help anyways friends, I'll post a reply when I'll be back from there. And I shall be uploading pictures of aircrafts that I have spotted, though, they might not satisfy you.
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Also, I wanted to ask that which runways are used for landings and for take-off's at Paf Mushaf and Masroor ??

The runways on Paf Masroor are:-
27, 22

And the one's on Paf Mushaf are:-
32, 90, 14, 24

So, which one's are used for take-off's and for landings ??
I might sound irritating but I can't help it because it will be the very first time that I will be standing outside the airbase waiting for an aircraft so I want as much advantage as I can.
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I guess it depends on the wind direction which determines the runway usage.
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Oh God. Now how may I do that ?
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