Wrecks and relics request Czech-Slovak-Hungaria region

[Nilson]

Hi all,

As I will be travelling trough the region during July-August I was wondering as if there are some interesting (besides museums) places-bases in the above mentioned countries where from the outside some nice storages can be seen. So I can adjust my route .

MTIA
Arnold

[ehusmann]

Since you yourself excluded museums already from the request, I have only one for you: Prerov in the Czech Republic. It is still an active helicopter base, but on the northside there is a hangar with a bunch of Su-22 stored around it. The hangar and some of the Sukhois can be seen from the road, but you can also easily walk towards it, there is no fence..... Although I do think it is military ground, so do be carefull.
This is the only place I know, I am sure there is muuuuuuuuch more in the three mentioned countries.

Erwin

[ketko]

Hi,

glad to hear youre going to visit my country, Slovakia.

Don't know what you plan to visit, but as you already know, there are two museums worth a visit - one in Piestany and one in Kosice, on the other end of the country. If Kosice is off your path, maybe you could fly there aon a daytrip with SkyEurope + DanubeWings for less than 50EUR).

As for some preserved aircraft, if you will go to Piestany, you can drive to my hometown, the nearby city of Nitra. We have a little airfield here (if you're into light aviation, there is a lot of Z-37's and a couple of other light aircraft + one An-2). Besides that, there are 3 aircraft displayed in front of the airfield, namely
404 WSK Lim L-6 R Polish Air Force (1J-0404)
1048 Mikoyan Gurevich MiG-19 PM Czechoslovak Air Force (651048)
3652 Mikoyan Gurevich MiG-15 bis Czechoslovak Air Force (613652)
There is also fuselage of OM-OIV Mil Mi-2 Air Transport Europe (528603034) dumped.

I hope it is at least of some help. If you need more information, do not hesitate to contact me.

Best regards, Keishi

[Mark Verstraaten]

Hello Arnold,

This is what we have seen during our trip in 2003;
grtx
Mark

Maandag 28 april 2003, Pápa-Tapolcafö (H)

CCCP-19288 Ka-26 nn Russia white c.s
HA-MMQ Ka-26 nn Hungary yellow c.s
rotorless

Maandag 28 april 2003, Szentkirályszabadja (H)

10435 Mi-8TB 87HE Hungarian AF SFOR mks.
701 Mi-17 87HE Hungarian AF SFOR mks./SAR mks.
702 Mi-17 87HE Hungarian AF SFOR mks./SAR mks.
575 Mi-24D 87HE Hungarian AF
583 Mi-24D 87HE Hungarian AF
713 Mi-24V 87HE Hungarian AF
714 Mi-24V 87HE Hungarian AF
717 Mi-24V 87HE Hungarian AF

Inside hangar:

6200 Mi-8T 87HE Hungarian AF
10419 Mi-8TB 87HE Hungarian AF
581 Mi-24D 87HE Hungarian AF
712 Mi-24V 87HE Hungarian AF

Outside in front of hangar:

720 Mi-24V 87HE Hungarian AF









Stored:

10418 Mi-8TB nn Hungarian AF
10426 Mi-8TB nn Hungarian AF
10429 Mi-8TB nn Hungarian AF
10438 Mi-8TB nn Hungarian AF SFOR mks.
001 Mi-9 nn Hungarian AF
703 Mi-17 nn Hungarian AF
706 Mi-17TPB nn Hungarian AF
707 Mi-17TPB nn Hungarian AF
005 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF
006 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF
007 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF
008 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF
105 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF
106 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF
107 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF
108 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF
111 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF
112 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF
115 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF
116 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF
118 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF
119 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF
9602 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF ex GAF
9604 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF ex GAF
9605 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF ex GAF
9607 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF ex GAF
9610 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF ex GAF
9611 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF ex GAF
9618 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF ex GAF
9620 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF ex GAF
9624 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF ex GAF
9625 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF ex GAF
9628 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF ex GAF
9632 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF ex GAF
9636 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF ex GAF
9641 Mi-24P nn Hungarian AF ex GAF
9642 Mi-24P nn Hungarian AF ex GAF
9644 Mi-24P nn Hungarian AF ex GAF
9645 Mi-24P nn Hungarian AF ex GAF
9646 Mi-24P nn Hungarian AF ex GAF
9648 Mi-24P nn Hungarian AF ex GAF
718 Mi-24V nn Hungarian AF
719 Mi-24V nn Hungarian AF

Gateguard:

130 Mi-8TB nn Hungarian AF
109 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF

Notes:
Op dit Hongaarse Heliveld hadden we onze eerste basisbezoek. Het leverde heel veel choppers op. Naast de flightline
mochten we ook in een hangaar rond kijken, fotograferen en noteren het was allemaal geen enkel probleem.
In deze hangaar stonden twee Mi-8en en twee Mi-24’s. Van de Mi-8 was de staartboom beschadigd, dit was gebeurd
tijdens een landende Mi-24 die de draaiende rotors van de Mi-8 6200 naar beneden drukte en vervolgens in de staartboom
boorden. Helaas mochten we niet bij de stored staande ex Duitse Luchtmacht Hinds komen. Ondanks dat hebben we toch
alles kunnen zien. Ook een leuke ervaring was het zitten in een echte Hind. Na een uurtje of twee namen we afscheid
van onze gids bedankte hem, gaven hem een foto van een KLu F-16 en vertrokken we met een buit van maar liefst
58 helikopters!






Maandag 28 april 2003, Székesfehérvár/Alba Agrár Termelö És (H)

510 Ka-26 nn Hungarian AF marked as HA-MRQ

Notes:
Deze blauw gespoten ex Luchtmacht Kamov wordt gebruikt voor het besproeien van de gewassen. Net toen wij
aankwamen waren ze bezig de helikopter te voorzien van de nodige brandstof om vervolgens het luchtruim te kiezen.
Een hele mooie gewaarwording om zo’n kist met dubbele rotors van zo dicht bij te zien opstijgen.

Maandag 28 april 2003, Székesfehérvár / Fire Department (H)

7809 Mi-2 nn Hungarian AF Rescue mks. red c.s
not civil reg. yet
8917 Mi-2 nn Hungarian AF Rescue mks. red c.s
not civil reg. yet

Maandag 28 april 2003, Magyar Repüléstörténeti Múzeum Alapítvany Szolnok (H)

23 Aero 45 nn Hungarian AF marked as G-007
907 An-24V nn Hungarian AF
202 An-26 nn Hungarian AF
55 Il-28 nn Hungarian AF
505 Ka-26 nn Hungarian AF
379 L-29 nn Hungarian AF
S1 L-39ZO nn Hungarian AF marked as 018
S2 L-39ZO nn Hungarian AF stored
19 Mi-1MU nn Hungarian AF stored
8911 Mi-2 nn Hungarian AF
416 Mi-8S nn Hungarian AF
10422 Mi-8TB nn Hungarian AF stored
114 Mi-24D nn Hungarian AF
512 MiG-15bis nn Hungarian AF
203 MiG-15UTI nn Hungarian AF
405 MiG-17PF nn Hungarian AF
28 MiG-19PM nn Hungarian AF
813 MiG-21F-13 nn Hungarian AF
814 MiG-21F-13 nn Hungarian AF stored
819 MiG-21F-13 nn Hungarian AF stored
822 MiG-21F-13 nn Hungarian AF stored
911 MiG-21F-13 nn Hungarian AF stored
2221 MiG-21F-13 nn Hungarian AF
9309 MiG-21MF nn Hungarian AF
406 MiG-21PF nn Hungarian AF stored
4419 MiG-21U-600 nn Hungarian AF
3041 MiG-21UM nn Hungarian AF
06 MiG-23MF nn Hungarian AF
09 SM-1 nn Hungarian AF
36 SM-1 nn Hungarian AF stored
12 Su-22M-3 nn Hungarian AF
63 Yak-11 nn Hungarian AF marked as 1949
21+64 F-104G nn GAF
534 Mi-4A nn NVA as 27 Hungarian AF
426 VEB-14T nn NVA
J-4022 Hunter F.58 nn Swiss AF Patr. Suisse c.s
104893/8-893 CF-104G nn Turkish AF marked as 63-893

Notes:
Eigenlijk was het museum al gesloten, maar door een telefoontje van Endre met een van de mensen van het veld werd
voor ons persoonlijk het museum geopend en mochten we naar hartelust alles bekijken en platen het museum was
eventjes helemaal alleen van ons.





Maandag 28 april 2003, Szolnok (H)

407 An-26 89VSE Hungarian AF
603 An-26 89VSE Hungarian AF
6207 Mi-8T 89VSE Hungarian AF
10433 Mi-8TB 89VSE Hungarian AF
10434 Mi-8TB 89VSE Hungarian AF
10444 Mi-8TB 89VSE Hungarian AF
± 8x Yak-52 89VSE Hungarian AF

Stored:

203 An-26 nn Hungarian AF
209 An-26 nn Hungarian AF
?x Mi-2 nn Hungarian AF
?x Mi-8 nn Hungarian AF
6212 Mi-8T nn Hungarian AF
10423 Mi-8TB nn Hungarian AF
10439 Mi-8TB nn Hungarian AF

Gateguard:

724 MiG-15bis nn Hungarian AF on pole
orange/white/green c.s

Dinsdag 29 april 2003, Kecskemét (H)

114 L-39ZO 59HRE Hungarian AF platform
115 L-39ZO 59HRE Hungarian AF flightline
122 L-39ZO 59HRE Hungarian AF flightline
124 L-39ZO 59HRE Hungarian AF platform
125 L-39ZO 59HRE Hungarian AF platform
128 L-39ZO 59HRE Hungarian AF flightline
130 L-39ZO 59HRE Hungarian AF flightline
131 L-39ZO 59HRE Hungarian AF platform
132 L-39ZO 59HRE Hungarian AF flightline
133 L-39ZO 59HRE Hungarian AF flightline
134 L-39ZO 59HRE Hungarian AF flightline
135 L-39ZO 59HRE Hungarian AF near hangar
137 L-39ZO 59HRE Hungarian AF flightline
138 L-39ZO 59HRE Hungarian AF flightline
140 L-39ZO 59HRE Hungarian AF flightline
1x Mi-8 nn Hungarian AF hangar
03 MiG-29A 59HRE Hungarian AF hangar
04 MiG-29A 59HRE Hungarian AF QRA scramble
06 MiG-29A 59HRE Hungarian AF hangar
08 MiG-29A 59HRE Hungarian AF near hangar
09 MiG-29A 59HRE Hungarian AF near hangar
16 MiG-29A 59HRE Hungarian AF hangar
18 MiG-29A 59HRE Hungarian AF shelter
21 MiG-29A 59HRE Hungarian AF QRA scramble
23 MiG-29A 59HRE Hungarian AF shelter
26 MiG-29UB 59HRE Hungarian AF demo exercise
27 MiG-29UB 59HRE Hungarian AF hangar

Preserved:

725 MiG-15bis nn Hungarian AF marked as 1976
1x MiG-17PF nn Hungarian AF marked as 1976
909 MiG-21F-13 nn Hungarian AF marked as 1977/1978




Dumped:

47 Il-28 nn Hungarian AF
002 SBLim-2 nn Hungarian AF marked as 1951
684 MiG-15bis nn Hungarian AF marked as 1977
805 MiG-21F-13 nn Hungarian AF

Stored flightline:

01 MiG-29A nn Hungarian AF
05 MiG-29A nn Hungarian AF
07 MiG-29A nn Hungarian AF
12 MiG-29A nn Hungarian AF
14 MiG-29A nn Hungarian AF
19 MiG-29A nn Hungarian AF
20 MiG-29A nn Hungarian AF
24 MiG-29UB nn Hungarian AF
25 MiG-29UB nn Hungarian AF
29 MiG-29UB nn Hungarian AF

Gateguard:

301 MiG-21F-13 nn Hungarian AF marked as 25 on pole

Notes:
Op dit L-39 en MiG-29 veld hadden we ons tweede basisbezoek en wat voor één. We mochten overal fotograferen,
in de hangaar, op de roller, op de flightline. Voor de W&R bakken werd er speciaal een omweg gereden, Klasse!
Héél speciaal waren de scramble MiG-29’s die het luchtruim kozen, dit hadden zelfs onze twee Hongaarse vrienden
Endré en David nog nooit eerder meegemaakt. Op dit veld stonden maar liefst tien Fulcrums stored. Verder vloog
er nog een MiG-29 zijn demo, later brachten we de piloot van deze kist samen met onze gids weer terug bij daar
waar alles begon, de poort.

Dinsdag 29 april 2003, Alsónémedi Scrapyard (H)

13 Mi-1MU nn Hungarian AF
060 MiG-15bis nn Hungarian AF marked as 1977
062 MiG-15bis nn Hungarian AF marked as 1974
065 MiG-15bis nn Hungarian AF marked as 1974
067 MiG-15bis nn Hungarian AF marked as 1978
115 MiG-15bis nn Hungarian AF marked as 1977
658 MiG-15bis nn Hungarian AF marked as 1974
666 MiG-15bis nn Hungarian AF marked as 14
708 MiG-15bis nn Hungarian AF marked as 1977
713 MiG-15bis nn Hungarian AF marked as 1983
981 MiG-15bis nn Hungarian AF marked as 1981
201 MiG-15UTI nn Hungarian AF marked as 1975
754 MiG-15UTI nn Hungarian AF marked as 1975
771 MiG-15UTI nn Hugnarian AF
402 MiG-17PF nn Hungarian AF marked as 1975
403 MiG-17PF nn Hungarian AF marked as 1975
404 MiG-17PF nn Hungarian AF marked as 1975 and 17
33 MiG-19PM nn Hungarian AF marked as 1975
36 MiG-19PM nn Hungarian AF marked as 1978
218 MiG-21F-13 nn Hungarian AF
308 MiG-21F-13 nn Hungarian AF marked as 1981 and 15
2319 MiG-21F-13 nn Hungarian AF marked as 1981
1320 MiG-21U-400 nn Hungarian AF
011 SBLim-2 nn Hungarian AF marked as 1975
027 SBLim-2 nn Hungarian AF marked as 1975
0220 MiG-21F-13 nn Czechosl. AF
20r Yak-28 nn Russian AF




Dinsdag 29 april 2003, Budapest-Kerepesi Út (H)

HA-MDU An-2R nn Hungary preserved at McDonalds

Dinsdag 29 april 2003, grensgebied nabij Hont (H)

1x Mi-8 nn Hungarian AF

Notes:
Op een heuveltop bij het grensgebied Hongarije/Slowakije zagen we plotseling deze grote jongen staan.
Er naar toe rijden had geen zin omdat het gebied afgesloten was voor burgers.

Dinsdag/woensdag 29/30 april 2003, Sliač (SK)

3208 An-26 2SBoLK Slovak AF fl.
4701 L-39ZA 1SLK Slovak AF fl.
4707 L-39ZA 1SLK Slovak AF fl.
4711 L-39ZA 1SLK Slovak AF fl.
± 5x L-39 1SLK Slovak AF flightline (1x camo)
0930 L-410T 1SLK Slovak AF on base
2311 L-410UVP-E 2SBoLK Slovak AF on base white c.s
2x L-410 1SLK Slovak AF flightline
1x Mi-2 3VrK Slovak AF on base / #
0808 Mi-17 3VrK Slovak AF on base
3x Mi-17 1SLK Slovak AF flightline
6124/SL MiG-29A 1SLK Slovak AF on base / #
6425/SL MiG-29A 1SLK Slovak AF on base
6526/SL MiG-29A 1SLK Slovak AF on base / *
5304/SL MiG-29UB 1SLK Slovak AF fl.

Stored:

1114 MiG-21MA nn Slovak AF
1201 MiG-21MA nn Slovak AF Czech AF mks.
1203 MiG-21MA nn Slovak AF
2615 MiG-21MA nn Slovak AF
2705 MiG-21MA nn Slovak AF
2706 MiG-21MA nn Slovak AF
4308 MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
4309 MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
4310 MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
4311 MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
4312 MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
4313 MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
4401 MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
4402 MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF spec. c.s
7702/SL MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
7703/SL MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF #
7704/SL MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
7710 MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
7712/SL MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
7713 MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
7714 MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
7803 MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
8205 MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
8207 MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
8208 MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
8209 MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
9404 MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
9712 MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
9713 MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF
9714/SL MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF #




1920 MiG-21R nn Slovak AF Czech AF mks.
0368 MiG-21UM nn Slovak AF Czech AF mks.
3051 MiG-21UM nn Slovak AF Czech AF mks.
3741/SL MiG-21UM nn Slovak AF #
5026 MiG-21UM nn Slovak AF
5101 MiG-21UM nn Slovak AF Czech AF mks.
±4x MiG-21 nn Slovak AF
0820 MiG-29A nn Slovak AF
3911 MiG-29A nn Slovak AF
5113 MiG-29A nn Slovak AF
5515 MiG-29A nn Slovak AF
5817 MiG-29A nn Slovak AF
7501 MiG-29A nn Slovak AF spec. c.s
8003 MiG-29A nn Slovak AF
8605 MiG-29A nn Slovak AF
9308 MiG-29A nn Slovak AF
2x MiG-29A nn Slovak AF

Dumped:

6930/SL MiG-29A nn Slovak AF wreck

Gateguard:

9501/SL MiG-21MF nn Slovak AF #

Notes:
* = alleen 29 april gezien # = alleen 30 april gezien. Vanuit het hotel een werkelijk fantastisch uitzicht over het veld!
Toen we woensdagavond nietsvermoedend vanaf het grote terras het veld inspecteerden, ging plotseling de
baanverlichting aan en hoorden we even later het geluid van opstartende straaljagers. Vanaf het terras hebben we de
vertrekkende kisten bekeken. Hierna zijn we in de auto gestapt en natuurlijk naar het veld geknald.
Goh…….waar heb ik dit toch eerder meegemaakt? In totaal staan hier wel 40 MiG-21’s stored! Woensdag al vroeg
In de morgen werden we gewekt door het geklop van een overbulderende Mi-2.

Woensdag 30 april 2003, Prešov (SK)

3301 Mi-2 3VrK Slovak AF rotorless
4523 Mi-2 3VrK Slovak AF
7737 Mi-2 3VrK Slovak AF
8212 Mi-2 3VrK Slovak AF
8217 Mi-2 3VrK Slovak AF
8746 Mi-2 3VrK Slovak AF
7520 Mi-8PPA 3VrK Slovak AF rotorless
0812 Mi-17 3VrK Slovak AF
0820 Mi-17 3VrK Slovak AF
0821 Mi-17 3VrK Slovak AF
0824 Mi-17 3VrK Slovak AF
0826 Mi-17 3VrK Slovak AF
0827 Mi-17 3VrK Slovak AF
1x Mi-17 3VrK Slovak AF rotorless
0101 Mi-24D 3VrK Slovak AF
0786 Mi-24V 3VrK Slovak AF

Preserved:

0515 MiG-21F-13 nn Czechosl. AF

Dumped:

5608 Su-7BM nn Czechosl. AF





Woensdag 30 april 2003, Súkromné Slovenské Dopravné Muzeum Prešov (SK)

7003 An-2 nn Czechosl. AF marked as OM-RIO
3153 Avia 14T nn Czechosl. AF fuselage only
3014 MiG-15bisSB nn Czechosl. AF
0714 MiG-21F-13 nn Czechosl. AF
1307 MiG-21PF nn Czechosl. AF
5315 Su-7BM nn Czechosl. AF
404 Lim-6R nn Polish AF marked as 5404
0115 L-29 nn Slovak AF Czech AF mks.
1417 L-29 nn Slovak AF nose section only

Donderdag 1 mei 2003, Bratislava-Ivanka (SK)

1x Tu-154M Slovak Gvmt Slovak AF

Donderdag 1 mei 2003, Malacky-Kuchyňa (SK)

1x An-24V 2SBoLK Slovak AF
2506 An-26 2SBoLK Slovak AF
3208 An-26 2SBoLK Slovak AF
1x L-29 2SBoLK Slovak AF
2845 L-29 2SBoLK Slovak AF
2846/2 L-29 2SBoLK Slovak AF
3228 L-29 2SBoLK Slovak AF
3229/10 L-29 2SBoLK Slovak AF
3246 L-29 2SBoLK Slovak AF
3407/7 L-29 2SBoLK Slovak AF

Preserved:

1208 MiG-21MA nn Slovak AF

Stored:

2219/A Su-22M-4 nn Slovak AF
2220 Su-22M-4 nn Slovak AF
2702/C Su-22M-4 nn Slovak AF
3311 Su-22M-4 nn Slovak AF
3312/E Su-22M-4 nn Slovak AF
3316/F Su-22M-4 nn Slovak AF
6802/S Su-22UM-3K nn Slovak AF
7208 Su-22UM-3K nn Slovak AF
1006 Su-25K nn Slovak AF
1007 Su-25K nn Slovak AF
1008 Su-25K nn Slovak AF
1027 Su-25K nn Slovak AF
5033 Su-25K nn Slovak AF
5036 Su-25K nn Slovak AF
6017 Su-25K nn Slovak AF
6018 Su-25K nn Slovak AF
8073 Su-25K nn Slovak AF
8074 Su-25K nn Slovak AF
8075 Su-25K nn Slovak AF
3237 Su-25UBK nn Slovak AF










Donderdag 1 mei 2003, Námĕšť Nad Oslavou (CZ)

2x L-39ZA 322Tlt/32 zLT Czech AF

Stored:

5007 Su-25K nn Czech AF

Preserved:

5317 Su-7BM nn Czechosl. AF marked as 1990 on pole
5320 Su-7BM nn Czechosl. AF marked as 1965 on pole

Donderdag 1 mei 2003, Brno-Slatina (CZ)

23194 G-2A nn Yugoslavian AF marked as YU-YAG
red/white/blue c.s
Notes;
Deze ex Joegoslavische Luchtmacht Galeb vloog pleziervluchtjes.

Donderdag 1 mei 2003, Nadece Letecké Historické Spolecnosti Vyškov (CZ)

0720 L-39V nn Czech AF
0735 L-39V nn Czech AF
B-2745 Mi-2 nn Czech AF Policie
0818 Mi-8T nn Czech AF
2703 MiG-21MA nn Czech AF
2101 MiG-21R nn Czech AF
5734 MiG-23BN nn Czech AF
9820 MiG-23BN nn Czech AF tail section missing
3645 MiG-23MF nn Czech AF nose section only
7183 MiG-23MF nn Czech AF
3133 Avia 14R nn Czechosl. AF
3144 Avia 14T nn Czechosl. AF
2404 Il-28RT nn Czechosl. AF
4005 Mi-1M nn Czechosl. AF
6017 Mi-1M nn Czechosl. AF
0599 Mi-4 nn Czechosl. AF not marked
4139 Mi-4 nn Czechosl. AF
3912 MiG-15bisSB nn Czechosl. AF
1102 MiG-19PM nn Czechosl. AF
0412 MiG-19S nn Czechosl. AF
0423 MiG-19S nn Czechosl. AF
1003 MiG-21F-13 nn Czechosl. AF
1106 MiG-21F-13 nn Czechosl. AF
1111 MiG-21F-13 nn Czechosl. AF
1212 MiG-21PF nn Czechosl. AF
1311 MiG-21PF nn Czechosl. AF
1313 MiG-21PF nn Czechosl. AF
8001 MiG-21PFM nn Czechosl. AF
0817 MiG-21U-400 nn Czechosl. AF
6427 Su-7BKL nn Czechosl. AF
6511 Su-7BKL nn Czechosl. AF
5521 Su-7BM nn Czechosl. AF marked as 21r Rus. AF
1015 Su-7UM nn Czechosl. AF
1016 Su-7UM nn Czechosl. AF
93+17 Mi-8T nn GAF marked as OK-FZE







Donderdag 1 mei 2003, Přerov (CZ)

7522 Mi-8PPA 343DPzLt/34zSL Czech AF rotorless
7523 Mi-8PPA 343DPzLt/34zSL Czech AF
0001 Mi-9 332LtDVr/33zVL Czech AF
0822 Mi-17 334VrRojSOR/33zVL Czech AF
0825 Mi-17 334VrRojSOR/33zVL Czech AF rotorless
0828 Mi-17 334VrRojSOR/33zVL Czech AF zebra c.s
0829 Mi-17 334VrRojSOR/33zVL Czech AF
0831 Mi-17 332LtDVr/33zVL Czech AF
0833 Mi-17 332LtDVr/33zVL Czech AF
0839 Mi-17 332LtDVr/33zVL Czech AF
0848 Mi-17 332LtDVr/33zVL Czech AF
0217 Mi-24D 331LtBVr/33zVL Czech AF
0220 Mi-24D 331LtBVr/33zVL Czech AF
6050 Mi-24DU 331LtBVr/33zVL Czech AF
0703 Mi-24V 331LtBVr/33zVL Czech AF
0705 Mi-24V 331LtBVr/33zVL Czech AF tiger c.s
0710 Mi-24V 331LtBVr/33zVL Czech AF rotorless
0815 Mi-24V 331LtBVr/33zVL Czech AF
0834 Mi-24V 331LtBVr/33zVL Czech AF
0835 Mi-24V 331LtBVr/33zVL Czech AF
7353 Mi-24V 331LtBVr/33zVL Czech AF
7354 Mi-24V 331LtBVr/33zVL Czech AF
7355 Mi-24V 331LtBVr/33zVL Czech AF

Stored:

2848 L-29 nn Czech AF
3238 L-29 nn Czech AF
3240 L-29 nn Czech AF
3241 L-29 nn Czech AF
3242 L-29 nn Czech AF
3401 L-29 nn Czech AF
3403 L-29 nn Czech AF
2218/18 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
2619/34 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
2620/35 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
2701/36 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
3313/24 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
3314/23 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
3315/39 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
3403/08 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
3406/12 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
3701/02 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
3703/43 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
3704/44 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
3705/51 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
3706/52 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
3802/26 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
3803/27 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
4005/30 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
4008/33 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
4010/28 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
6602/55 Su-22UM-3K nn Czech AF
7103/03 Su-22UM-3K nn Czech AF
7104/40 Su-22UM-3K nn Czech AF
7309/41 Su-22UM-3K nn Czech AF
7310/25 Su-22UM-3K nn Czech AF






1005 Su-25K nn Czech AF
5003 Su-25K nn Czech AF
5006 Su-25K nn Czech AF
5008 Su-25K nn Czech AF no wings
5039 Su-25K nn Czech AF
6018 Su-25K nn Czech AF
6019 Su-25K nn Czech AF
8078 Su-25K nn Czech AF
8079 Su-25K nn Czech AF
9013 Su-25K nn Czech AF frog c.s
9014 Su-25K nn Czech AF

Vrijdag 2 mei 2003, Pardubice (CZ)

1107 An-30 343DPzLt/34zSL Czech AF white c.s
1523 L-410FG 343DPzLt/34zSL Czech AF red/white c.s
1525 L-410FG 343DPzLt/34zSL Czech AF red/white c.s
1526 L-410FG 343DPzLt/34zSL Czech AF red/white c.s
0830 Mi-17 343DPzLt/34zSL Czech AF
0849 Mi-17 332LtDVr/33zVL Czech AF

Vrijdag 2 mei 2003, Chotusice (CZ)

3934 MiG-15bis nn Czechosl. AF preserved

Vrijdag 2 mei 2003, Praha-Letňany (CZ)

1x L-39 nn Unknown pres. as L-39
red/white c.s

Vrijdag 2 mei 2003, Letecké Opravny Kbely, Praha-Letňany (CZ)

0619 MiG-21F-13 nn Czechosl. AF gateguard as 8519

Vrijdag 2 mei 2003, Aeroclub Praha-Letňany (CZ)

OK-VHJ An-2 Paraklub Praha-Letňany Czech Republic fl.

Vrijdag/zaterdag 2/3 mei 2003, Praha-Kbely (CZ)

7109 An-24V 61DLt/6 zDL Czech AF
2408 An-26 61DLt/6 zDL Czech AF
2409 An-26 61DLt/6 zDL Czech AF
2507 An-26 61DLt/6 zDL Czech AF
4201 An-26 61DLt/6 zDL Czech AF
1132 L-410T 61DLt/6 zDL Czech AF #
0731 L-410UVP 61DLt/6 zDL Czech AF
2312 L-410UVP-E 61DLt/6 zDL Czech AF
0834 Mi-8PS 62VrLt/6 zDL Czech AF VIP Flt white c.s dep.
0805 Mi-17 343DPzLt/34 zSL Czech AF
0811 Mi-17 343DPzLt/34 zSL Czech AF
2x Mi-17 nn Czech AF
0601 Tu-154B-2 61DLt/6zDL Czech AF
0712 W-3A 62VrLt/6zDL Czech AF
0260 Yak-40 61DLt/6zDL Czech AF
1257 Yak-40K 61DLt/6zDL Czech AF

Notes:
# = alleen zaterdag 3 mei gezien.







Vrijdag/zaterdag 2/3 mei 2003,Letecke Muzeum Praha-Kbely (CZ)

2904 An-24V nn Czech AF stored
0740 L-39V nn Czech AF stored
3908 L-39V nn Czech AF stored
B-2530 Mi-2 nn Czech AF Policie
0313 Mi-8T nn Czech AF
0819 Mi-8T nn Czech AF stored
1232 Mi-8T nn Czech AF stored
7705 MiG-21MF nn Czech AF
2410 MiG-21MF-75 nn Czech AF stored
1501 MiG-21R nn Czech AF
3166 MiG-21UM nn Czech AF stored
3181 MiG-21UM nn Czech AF
0948 MiG-21US nn Czech AF stored
5735 MiG-23BN nn Czech AF stored
3646 MiG-23MF nn Czech AF special c.s
3922 MiG-23MF nn Czech AF
2406 MiG-23ML nn Czech AF
7905 MiG-23UB nn Czech AF
4006/31 Su-22M-4 nn Czech AF
9098 Su-25K nn Czech AF
6102 Avia 14FG nn Czechosl. AF stored
3108 Avia 14T nn Czechosl. AF stored
UC-26 Avia CS-199 nn Czechosl. AF
V-34 Avia S-92 nn Czechosl. AF
UF-25 Avia S-199 nn Czechosl. AF
0603 Il-14FG nn Czechosl. AF stored
2107 Il-28B nn Czechosl. AF stored
2303 Il-28RT nn Czechosl. AF stored
6926 Il-28RT nn Czechosl. AF
0501 Il-28U nn Czechosl. AF stored
0010 L-29 nn Czechosl. AF
2827 L-29R nn Czechosl. AF
X-05 L-39 nn Czechosl. AF marked as 3905
1125 L-200D nn Czechosl. AF
1511 Let C-11 LOK Czechosl. AF marked as OK-JZE
1727 Let C-11 nn Czechosl. AF
2710 Li-2D nn Czechosl. AF marked as OK-WDI
3002 Li-2F nn Czechosl. AF stored
4003 Mi-1M nn Czechosl. AF
0538 Mi-4 nn Czechosl. AF
2143 Mi-4A nn Czechosl. AF stored
1720 MiG-15 nn Czechosl. AF
3671 MiG-15bisR nn Czechosl. AF
3255 MiG-15bisSB nn Czechosl. AF
1186 MiG-15SB nn Czechosl. AF stored
2512 MiG-15UTI nn Czechosl. AF stored
2611 MiG-15UTI nn Czechosl. AF
2626 MiG-15UTI-P nn Czechosl. AF
0872 MiG-17F nn Czechosl. AF
0201 MiG-17PF nn Czechosl. AF not marked
1015 MiG-17PF nn Czechosl. AF
0813 MiG-19P nn Czechosl. AF
1043 MiG-19PM nn Czechosl. AF
0414 MiG-19S nn Czechosl. AF
0212 MiG-21F-13 nn Czechosl. AF stored
0613 MiG-21F-13 nn Czechosl. AF
1013 MiG-21F-13 nn Czechosl. AF stored
0308 MiG-21PF nn Czechosl. AF
4411 MiG-21PFM nn Czechosl. AF



5919 Su-7BKL nn Czechosl. AF stored
6428 Su-7BKL nn Czechosl. AF stored
6513 Su-7BKL nn Czechosl. AF
5616 Su-7BM nn Czechosl. AF
1017 Su-7UM nn Czechosl. AF
30 Yak-17 nn Czechosl. AF
HX-51 Yak-23 nn Czechosl. AF
0723 Yak-40 nn Czechosl. AF stored
EG-247/SV-D Meteor F.8 nn BAF stored
38 CM.170 nn FAF stored
35211 T-33A nn FAF marked as 8580 USAF
B-67 AT-16ND nn RNLAF marked as FT422
38r Il-2m3 nn Russian AF
33w L-39C nn Russian AF
A94-922 F-86 nn RAAF mrkd as A94-923 RAAF
XT899/B Phantom FGR.2 nn RAF blue c.s
TE565/NN-N Spitfire LF.IXE nn RAF
00878 F-5E nn Vietnamese AF
OK-NAA Il-18V nn Czech Republic stored
OK-70 XL-29 nn Czech Republic prototype
OK-182 XL-39 nn Czech Republic prototype
OK-010 MiG-15UTI nn Czech Republic stored
OK-LDA Tu-104A nn Czech Republic stored

Zaterdag 3 mei 2003, Muzeum Zruč (CZ)

0502 L-410MA nn Czech AF
0715 Mi-2 nn Czech AF Air Resque titles
yellow c.s rotorless
9409 MiG-21MF nn Czech AF cockpit only
9814 MiG-23BN nn Czech AF
8327 MiG-23UB nn Czech AF tail of wreck cr. 19nov96
6103 Avia 14FG nn Czechosl. AF
3114 Avia 14T nn Czechosl. AF
3146 Avia 14T nn Czechosl. AF
0507 Il-14P nn Czechosl. AF
0101 L-29 nn Czechosl. AF stored
2810 L-29R nn Czechosl. AF stored
2611 L-29RS nn Czechosl. AF
4033 Mi-1 nn Czechosl. AF
4043 Mi-1 nn Czechosl. AF marked as 4943
2543 Mi-4 nn Czechosl. AF
0815 Mi-8P nn Czechosl. AF fuselage only
1032 Mi-8T nn Czechosl. AF marked as OK-YXB
5237 MiG-15 nn Czechosl. AF stored
3943 MiG-15bis nn Czechosl. AF stored
3133 MiG-15bisSB nn Czechosl. AF stored
3945 MiG-15bisSB nn Czechosl. AF stored
0551 MiG-15SB nn Czechosl. AF
1142 MiG-15SB nn Czechosl. AF marked as 4117
2501/15 MiG-15UTI nn Czechosl. AF stored
0918 MiG-19PM nn Czechosl. AF
0309 MiG-21F-13 nn Czechosl. AF stored
0312 MiG-21F-13 nn Czechosl. AF stored
0602 MiG-21F-13 nn Czechosl. AF
0711 MiG-21F-13 nn Czechosl. AF stored
1009 MiG-21F-13 nn Czechosl. AF
1207 MiG-21MA nn Czechosl. AF
6502 Su-7BKL nn Czechosl. AF stored
6509 Su-7BKL nn Czechosl. AF
1014 Su-7UM nn Czechosl. AF




FX93 F-104G nn BAF
104648/857B CF-104D nn CAF on pole
304/33-TN Mirage 3R nn FAF
83 Super Mystère B.2 nn FAF broken up ex museum Savigny Lés Beaunes (F)

[patrick dirksen]

This looks like a great trip! But before you want to "copy" this, some things have changed in the last few years!
-Szentkiralyszabadja is completely empty by now, so no need to take a look there (unless you're interested in a few civilian gliders....).
-Kecskemet: indeed almost all MiG-29's are stored here, and if you take the time for it all are visible from outside. But be careful for the guards here!
-Alsonemedi: also (almost?) completely empty by now. Most aircraft have "disappeared" and are probably scrapped.
-Malacky: all Su-25's and most Su-22's have left here
-Prerov: all Su-25's and about half of the Su-22's are gone. Also one of the squadrons has moved to Namest by now (don't remember which one, just look in the Scramble orbat section)
Sorry to bring you the bad news, but I guess it's better to know that now that find it out at the fence....

[Bart]

Dear all,
Sadly I have to agree with Patrick. The data mentioned about the fileds in Hungary, can be ignored. The situation has changed dramaticly during the last couple of years. If you need some detailed info please send the specific questions about Hungary in a private mail and I'll see what I can do.
Never the less, Hungary is still a really nice place to score some nice aircraft!!
Bart

[Nilson]

Hi all,

Everybody thanks for their reply.


Arnold

[jurgen]

Hi Arnold,

I have not seen the most simple and obvious solution to your problem.
There is only one way you can be sure you will not miss a single aircraft or collection.

Invest a few Euros and purchase the excellent publication "European Military Out of Service 2007" by Otger van der Kooij & Andy Marden.
I know this book is two years old, but Otger will offer this great book with an update containing all changes since then at the annual Open Days at Volkel Air Base for a special price.
Check out http://www.scramble.nl/shop.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for more info.

Jurgen

[F17_114PM]

Hi Jürgen,
any change that this update will be offered to people, which have the book, but are maybe not able to come to Volkel?

Thank you
Marcus

Hi Arnold,

I have not seen the most simple and obvious solution to your problem.
There is only one way you can be sure you will not miss a single aircraft or collection.

Invest a few Euros and purchase the excellent publication "European Military Out of Service 2007" by Otger van der Kooij & Andy Marden.
I know this book is two years old, but Otger will offer this great book with an update containing all changes since then at the annual Open Days at Volkel Air Base for a special price.
Check out http://www.scramble.nl/shop.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for more info.

Jurgen

[jurgen]

Hi Marcus,

All these updates have also appeared in Scramble magazine.
Otger has made enough updates for the books we have for sale. Perhaps when we have some left we could send them to you.
Please be in touch after the open days.

Greetings,
Jurgen (ohne ")

[F17_114PM]

Thank you very much Jurgen
And sorry for the (")

Best regards
Marcus

[Nilson]

Hi Jurgen,

I do have the EMOOS 2007. But for me it is most interesting to know what can be seen from the outside. Thanks for your reply.

Arnold