LOG: Dekelia-Tatoi, 29 March 2022

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LOG: Dekelia-Tatoi, 29 March 2022

Post by r.e.hendriks »

Hi all,

Here is a full log of what was noted at Dekelia-Tatoi, on March 29, 2022. (this was noted between 09:30-15:30lt)
If you have corrections / additions, let me know.

Parked / Flying from sun sheds Apron H:
336 P2002JF 360 MEA Hellenic AF
337 P2002JF 360 MEA Hellenic AF
342 P2002JF 360 MEA Hellenic AF
343 P2002JF 360 MEA Hellenic AF
344 P2002JF 360 MEA Hellenic AF
345 P2002JF 360 MEA Hellenic AF
346 P2002JF 360 MEA Hellenic AF
348 P2002JF 360 MEA Hellenic AF
349 P2002JF 360 MEA Hellenic AF
350 P2002JF 360 MEA Hellenic AF didn’t fly

Parked / Flying from Apron I:
AC-1 Ce.172RG nn Limeniko Soma
AC-21 Ce.F406 nn Limeniko Soma
AC-22 Ce.F406 nn Limeniko Soma
AC-23 Ce.F406 nn Limeniko Soma
AC-3 TB-20 nn Limeniko Soma dep.
AC-4 TB-20 nn Limeniko Soma

Parked / Flying from Apron J:
026 PZL M18B 359 MED MAEDY Hellenic AF
029 PZL M18B 359 MED MAEDY Hellenic AF
030 PZL M18B 359 MED MAEDY Hellenic AF
101 PZL M18B 359 MED MAEDY Hellenic AF didn’t fly
103 PZL M18B 359 MED MAEDY Hellenic AF
116 PZL M18B 359 MED MAEDY Hellenic AF
117 PZL M18B 359 MED MAEDY Hellenic AF didn’t fly
119 PZL M18B 359 MED MAEDY Hellenic AF
201 PZL M18B 359 MED MAEDY Hellenic AF
202 PZL M18B 359 MED MAEDY Hellenic AF didn’t fly
205 PZL M18B 359 MED MAEDY Hellenic AF didn’t fly
805 PZL M18BS 359 MED MAEDY Hellenic AF
807 PZL M18BS 359 MED MAEDY Hellenic AF didn’t fly

Stored at Apron F:
69-7183 T-41D nn Hellenic AF
69-7184 T-41D nn Hellenic AF
69-7185 T-41D nn Hellenic AF
69-7186 T-41D nn Hellenic AF
69-7188 T-41D nn Hellenic AF
69-7197 T-41D nn Hellenic AF
69-7198 T-41D nn Hellenic AF

Temporary stored at Apron G:
N154AC/733 CH-54A Ericson Air-Crane Civil USA ex 68-18435 USAR
N164AC/735 CH-54A Ericson Air-Crane Civil USA ex 68-18432 USAR
N189AC/730 CH-54A Ericson Air-Crane Civil USA ex 68-18457 USAR
N194AC/737 CH-54A Ericson Air-Crane Civil USA ex 67-18415 USAR
N243AC/743 CH-54A Ericson Air-Crane Civil USA ex 67-18420 USAR
N247AC/739 CH-54A Ericson Air-Crane Civil USA ex 68-18450 USAR

Stored at Apron H:
69-7182 T-41D nn Hellenic AF with prop / ops?
69-7187 T-41D nn Hellenic AF
69-7190 T-41D nn Hellenic AF
69-7199 T-41D nn Hellenic AF
70-1962 T-41D nn Hellenic AF

Stored in the grass behind Apron J:
1221 G-164A nn Hellenic AF
1265 G-164A nn Hellenic AF
1269 G-164A nn Hellenic AF
1279 G-164A nn Hellenic AF
1547 G-164A nn Hellenic AF
1569 G-164A nn Hellenic AF
1570 G-164A nn Hellenic AF
1604 G-164A nn Hellenic AF

Crossing the CTR:
1123 CL-215 355 MTM / 112 PM Hellenic AF
ΠN . . S-70B 2 MEN Hellenic N

Highlevel crosser:
A7-MAN C-17A 12 Sqn QEAF LHOB242 HDG SE

Preserved midfield:
160080/80 T-2E nn Hellenic AF
88018/TE-018 T-37B nn Hellenic AF

Gateguards:
26837/837 F-84F nn Hellenic AF
69-7200 T-41D nn Hellenic AF

Small remark: the T-41s parked at Apron J, near the P2002s looked operational from the museum side. But after looking at the photos I took along the fence, only one of them had a prop, so these were probably stored as well. Not sure if any of the T-41s is still operational within the HAF.

Best regards, Rob Hendriks

PS. the log of the museum will follow soon.
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Re: LOG: Dekelia-Tatoi, 29 March 2022

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Seen at Dekelia the 30th, was T-41D 69-7192 inside the hangar near the sunsheds. Also M-18 serial 118 was seen, it was parked behind the hangar close to the M-18 flightlines.
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Re: LOG: Dekelia-Tatoi, 29 March 2022

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Hi Rob, I saw 2 Ce.F406. It were the two behind eachother looking from the museum. From the fence it were the two you see first. Do you know the serials of those two

Also 1039 was crossing the CTR and an AB.212
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Re: LOG: Dekelia-Tatoi, 29 March 2022

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marco70 wrote: 31 Mar 2022, 20:25 Hi Rob, I saw 2 Ce.F406. It were the two behind eachother looking from the museum. From the fence it were the two you see first. Do you know the serials of those two

Also 1039 was crossing the CTR and an AB.212
Looking again (closer) to the pictures... I think this must be AC-22 and AC-23.
AC-21 looks stored, is more weathered and no engine (at least not on the right).

What time did you see the CL-215?
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Re: LOG: Dekelia-Tatoi, 29 March 2022

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CL-215 1039 flew from north to south at 11:09 local time in Athens.
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Re: LOG: Dekelia-Tatoi, 29 March 2022

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A couple of questions on the Skycranes:

a) On 30 March, we read 3: N172AC, N194AC, N247AC from the museum area. N172AC does not feature on the previous days' log! Did anyone else read any of these?
b) Where does the idea that N189AC is ex 69-18457 come from please?
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Re: LOG: Dekelia-Tatoi, 29 March 2022

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I am told that someone else read the same six as quoted in the first message on Saturday, so it looks like a mispole from us.
Question b) still applies though.
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Re: LOG: Dekelia-Tatoi, 29 March 2022

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AndyMarden wrote: 04 Apr 2022, 20:30 b) Where does the idea that N189AC is ex 69-18457 come from please?
69-18457 (c/n 64.062) crashed on 29 sept 1979. Years later that same helicopter was rebuilt as N189AC with c/n 64.1001.
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Re: LOG: Dekelia-Tatoi, 29 March 2022

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Yes, thanks. But where does that info actually come from please?
I'm struggling to see how a machine that crashed and burned out on 29Sep79, with four fatalities, can miraculously re-appear as a zero-timed airframe.
Or is this another example of a Spitfire "restoration"?
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Re: LOG: Dekelia-Tatoi, 29 March 2022

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From a photo there look to be six T-41s on Apron H on Saturday 2nd April.
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Re: LOG: Dekelia-Tatoi, 29 March 2022

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AndyMarden wrote: 05 Apr 2022, 11:37 Yes, thanks. But where does that info actually come from please?
I'm struggling to see how a machine that crashed and burned out on 29Sep79, with four fatalities, can miraculously re-appear as a zero-timed airframe.
Or is this another example of a Spitfire "restoration"?
Found this on various websites on the internet... just have a try to google it.
But must admit, I think it was mainly a rebuilt with only large parts of the old airframe used.

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Re: LOG: Dekelia-Tatoi, 29 March 2022

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747woody wrote: 05 Apr 2022, 12:49 From a photo there look to be six T-41s on Apron H on Saturday 2nd April.
Did it have props?
Of the five T-41's parked on the H-apron on March 29th, only one had an engine installed.
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Re: LOG: Dekelia-Tatoi, 29 March 2022

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During the 30th the hangar was open. 69-7192 inside, with props attached
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Re: LOG: Dekelia-Tatoi, 29 March 2022

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r.e.hendriks wrote: 05 Apr 2022, 13:25
747woody wrote: 05 Apr 2022, 12:49 From a photo there look to be six T-41s on Apron H on Saturday 2nd April.
Did it have props?
Of the five T-41's parked on the H-apron on March 29th, only one had an engine installed.
It's a photo of the S-64s, but you can see six Cessna wingtips!
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Re: LOG: Dekelia-Tatoi, 29 March 2022

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Have checked several times from different angels an I could only identify 5x T-41 on the ramp behind the S-64's and not 6 !
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