IDF-AF to excersise in Germany #bluewings2020

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Re: IDF-AF to excersise in Germany #bluewings2020

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I have further to say that no cars are allowed near the fence at the 25 approach. In the past week some police men allowed this, but in the next week every car near the fence will get a ticket or will be towed away!
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Yesterday (Thursday) we were early (7.45 or so) at 25 approach and there was no police (yet) to stop traffic. About 20 cars were already parked. Around 13.00 (after return of the 1st wave) a police officer notified everybody to remove their cars within the next hour. Fine would be around EURO 170 plus potentially car would be towed away. Must say the police were extremely polite and friendly, no complaints.
One can park the car in the grass on the verge of the road to Wisserheim (take care when crossing the busy L495 !). From the Wisserheim parking spot (est. space for ca. 30 cars) ideally one can take a (folding) bike to 25 approach (ca. 10 minutes) or walk (25 minutes). Step ladders were tolerated but not placed against the fence.
There were quite a few wasps around, so avoid sweet stuff and stay calm (they'll go away). Enjoy and don't leave your trash behind !
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Re: IDF-AF to excersise in Germany #bluewings2020

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We tried west side of the field (runway "07" on the Scramble guide) yesterday afternoon.
They turned the runway after departure of the 2nd wave to approaches from the west. Only the (early) returning 31+39 just squeezed in from the east.
Driving to the spots along B477 took around 10 minutes. Coming from the south on 477, on the left there are a few narrow gravel roads. Thursday, police was present at the gravel road next to the approach lights and seems they were OK with the spotters. We were parked along another gravel road a little to the south. No police there. Officially these gravel roads are only for local agricultural traffic, so police may send you away. Place is not ideal and light challenging but decent pictures are possible. No idea about take-off shots from there. Suspect the fighters are already pretty high.
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Re: IDF-AF to excersise in Germany #bluewings2020

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runway "07" on the Scramble guide
It is runway 07, and the other side is 25. There is no runway 27 at Nörvenich. :wink:
Many thanks once again for the huge amount of great info on this event!

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Correct, Erik. I copied the runway number Herby was referring to in my answer to prevent confusion (and bitterly :oops: failed ... ).
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Re: IDF-AF to excersise in Germany #bluewings2020

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Sorry, of course runway 25. I corrected it.
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Leeuweng wrote:Yesterday (Thursday) we were early (7.45 or so) at 25 approach and there was no police (yet) to stop traffic. About 20 cars were already parked. Around 13.00 (after return of the 1st wave) a police officer notified everybody to remove their cars within the next hour. Fine would be around EURO 170 plus potentially car would be towed away. Must say the police were extremely polite and friendly, no complaints.
One can park the car in the grass on the verge of the road to Wisserheim (take care when crossing the busy L495 !). From the Wisserheim parking spot (est. space for ca. 30 cars) ideally one can take a (folding) bike to 25 approach (ca. 10 minutes) or walk (25 minutes). Step ladders were tolerated but not placed against the fence.
There were quite a few wasps around, so avoid sweet stuff and stay calm (they'll go away). Enjoy and don't leave your trash behind !

Can anyone give some info on today's parking/spotting conditions?
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Re: IDF-AF to excersise in Germany #bluewings2020

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Same applied today. We approached the field from the South and where directed to the grass.
It is approx 20 min walk. Approach is large field (with some low trees) no stepledder really needed. At the fence a stepledder is needed/handy.
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Thanks for the update and what time did the first wave leave today since I plan to go tomorrow?

Regards, Aldin
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Aladin wrote:Thanks for the update and what time did the first wave leave today since I plan to go tomorrow?

Regards, Aldin
According NOTAM airfield open from 0900lt till 1800lt.

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Aladin wrote:Thanks for the update and what time did the first wave leave today since I plan to go tomorrow?

Regards, Aldin
Morning wave:
UH-1 70+87 @ 9.25
Typhoons 31+05 31+34 30+96 31+47 31+32 31+43 31+52 between 9.55-10.05
G5 569 @10:10
F-16C 531 536 @10.35
F-16D 682 628 @10.35

B707 272 arr 13.45
B707 275 arr 14.03

Left after the 2 707’s landed so no details on the afternoon wave

Anyone for the Typhoon in Box 13?
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Dear aviation friends, will the IDF F-16's fly Thursday 27 august?
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Re: IDF-AF to excersise in Germany #bluewings2020

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Dear aviation friends, will the IDF F-16's fly Thursday 27 august?
I guess nobody knows.....
It would surprise me if they didn't however, although I can imagine they will only fly a morning mission as they will be leaving very early on Friday morning allegedly. But this is pure speculation on my part!
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Re: IDF-AF to excersise in Germany #bluewings2020

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Box 13 was 30+97
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Re: IDF-AF to excersise in Germany #bluewings2020

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Will they fly tomorrow, because it will storm?
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