Port visit Zeebrugge 2018

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Re: Port visit Zeebrugge 2018

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Jan-Pieter Bergmans wrote:At the moment ARC Endurance is on its way to Zeebrugge. Estimated arrival is on Thursday 26 July during mid day. So, loading the helicopters will begin shortly after that. Endurance is expected to be back in Beaumont around 15 August.
For some reason Endurance appears to be the preferred vessel for the transportation of the helicopters. Does anyone know why? Is it different than the other ARC ro-ro vessels?

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Re: Port visit Zeebrugge 2018

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Fishbed_9307 wrote: Is it different than the other ARC ro-ro vessels?
It's a lot bigger. Not sure if that's the reason though. Perhaps there could be other logistic/planning reasons as well.
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Re: Port visit Zeebrugge 2018

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Jan-Pieter Bergmans wrote:At the moment ARC Endurance is on its way to Zeebrugge. Estimated arrival is on Thursday 26 July during mid day. So, loading the helicopters will begin shortly after that. Endurance is expected to be back in Beaumont around 15 August.
Well, that would be a nice birthday present in Beaumont.
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Re: Port visit Zeebrugge 2018

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Seen last Sunday in the harbour in Zeebrugge were the following US Army choppers:
A bit late, but thanks for the log!!
+ 4 unreadable
Probably a stupid question, but I presume those four couldn't be found by deduction? I didn't really follow all the incoming and outgoing traffic of all these detachments, sorry....

A possibly more sensible question: I notice many of the H-60s carry a badge on the nose, but some have the red cross. Is it known which ones have the red cross, and do all others carry the unit badge? On the Chinooks only 77, 80, 82 and 83 carry a badge on the tail, the others don't. And what about the Apaches, any markings on those?
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Re: Port visit Zeebrugge 2018

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patrick dirksen wrote:
Seen last Sunday in the harbour in Zeebrugge were the following US Army choppers:
A bit late, but thanks for the log!!
+ 4 unreadable
Probably a stupid question, but I presume those four couldn't be found by deduction? I didn't really follow all the incoming and outgoing traffic of all these detachments, sorry....

A possibly more sensible question: I notice many of the H-60s carry a badge on the nose, but some have the red cross. Is it known which ones have the red cross, and do all others carry the unit badge? On the Chinooks only 77, 80, 82 and 83 carry a badge on the tail, the others don't. And what about the Apaches, any markings on those?
Hi Patrick,

First of all; it was impossible to read the UH-60M/HH-60Ms as they can fold their horizontal stabilizers upwards after which they will obscure the serials. Thanks to the great work of Adrian Sturmer at Spangdahlem most are known but four UH-60Ms remained unidentified at Spang. Note that I believe that 30 UH-60Ms were deployed to Europe so eight, probably deployed in Eastern Europe were redeployed from another port or by air. All 24 AH-64s (all wearing a yellow badge on their nose) were positively identified in Zeebrugge as were the Chinooks. Note that one Chinook (15-08181) and one HH-60M (16-20857) were on static display during the Belgian Navy Days. It is likely that these were relocated to the ICO terminal after the event and are now awaiting transportation.

These are strongly believed to be the winning numbers:

29 juni 2018 Zeebrugge port

ICO terminal:

1-227 AVN (AR) : AH-64E :
14-01011 14-01014 14-01016 16-03084 16-03085
16-03089 16-03095 16-03099 16-03110 16-03112
16-03113 17-03115 17-03117 17-03120 17-03122
17-03123

Co.A 2-227 AVN (CMD) : UH-60L :
92-26436 93-26480 93-26510 93-26525 94-26565
94-26575 98-26817 98-26828

Co.B 2-227 AVN (HH) : CH-47F :
14-08462 15-08174 15-08175 15-08177 15-08179
15-08180 15-08181 15-08182 15-08183 15-08463

Co.C 2-227 AVN (AA) : HH-60M :
16-20856 16-20857 16-20858 16-20859 16-20860
16-20861 16-20862 16-20863 16-20864 16-20865
16-20866 16-20867 16-20868 16-20869 16-20870

3-227 AVN (ASLT) : UH-60M :
15-20731 15-20791 15-20792 15-20793 15-20795
15-20796 16-20807 16-20808 16-20810 16-20812
16-20813 16-20814 16-20819 16-20820 16-20821
16-20832 +4

Greetings, Paul
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Re: Port visit Zeebrugge 2018

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Thanks Paul!
Adding to that, a search on the web revealed that all HH-60Ms have Red Cross markings and no unit markings, all other helicopters have the yellow badge on the nose (Apaches, H-60s and also the Chinooks).
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Re: Port visit Zeebrugge 2018

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Endurance is now expected around 06:00 hours tomorrow morning (26 July).
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Re: Port visit Zeebrugge 2018

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MV Endurance arrived at the expected dock 09:45 local time today.
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Re: Port visit Zeebrugge 2018

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Fishbed_9307 wrote:Note that one Chinook (15-08181) and one HH-60M (16-20857) were on static display during the Belgian Navy Days. It is likely that these were relocated to the ICO terminal after the event and are now awaiting transportation.
These two were indeed noted on the 19th together with the rest at the ICO terminal.


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Re: Port visit Zeebrugge 2018

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Fishbed_9307 wrote:
patrick dirksen wrote:
Seen last Sunday in the harbour in Zeebrugge were the following US Army choppers:
A bit late, but thanks for the log!!
+ 4 unreadable
Probably a stupid question, but I presume those four couldn't be found by deduction? I didn't really follow all the incoming and outgoing traffic of all these detachments, sorry....

A possibly more sensible question: I notice many of the H-60s carry a badge on the nose, but some have the red cross. Is it known which ones have the red cross, and do all others carry the unit badge? On the Chinooks only 77, 80, 82 and 83 carry a badge on the tail, the others don't. And what about the Apaches, any markings on those?
Hi Patrick,

First of all; it was impossible to read the UH-60M/HH-60Ms as they can fold their horizontal stabilizers upwards after which they will obscure the serials. Thanks to the great work of Adrian Sturmer at Spangdahlem most are known but four UH-60Ms remained unidentified at Spang. Note that I believe that 30 UH-60Ms were deployed to Europe so eight, probably deployed in Eastern Europe were redeployed from another port or by air. All 24 AH-64s (all wearing a yellow badge on their nose) were positively identified in Zeebrugge as were the Chinooks. Note that one Chinook (15-08181) and one HH-60M (16-20857) were on static display during the Belgian Navy Days. It is likely that these were relocated to the ICO terminal after the event and are now awaiting transportation.

These are strongly believed to be the winning numbers:

29 juni 2018 Zeebrugge port

ICO terminal:

1-227 AVN (AR) : AH-64E :
14-01011 14-01014 14-01016 16-03084 16-03085
16-03089 16-03095 16-03099 16-03110 16-03112
16-03113 17-03115 17-03117 17-03120 17-03122
17-03123

Co.A 2-227 AVN (CMD) : UH-60L :
92-26436 93-26480 93-26510 93-26525 94-26565
94-26575 98-26817 98-26828

Co.B 2-227 AVN (HH) : CH-47F :
14-08462 15-08174 15-08175 15-08177 15-08179
15-08180 15-08181 15-08182 15-08183 15-08463

Co.C 2-227 AVN (AA) : HH-60M :
16-20856 16-20857 16-20858 16-20859 16-20860
16-20861 16-20862 16-20863 16-20864 16-20865
16-20866 16-20867 16-20868 16-20869 16-20870

3-227 AVN (ASLT) : UH-60M :
15-20731 15-20791 15-20792 15-20793 15-20795
15-20796 16-20807 16-20808 16-20810 16-20812
16-20813 16-20814 16-20819 16-20820 16-20821
16-20832 +4

Greetings, Paul
Are the four unknown already known???
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Re: Port visit Zeebrugge 2018

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Are the four unknown already known???[/quote]

Hi Arno,

Only 3 are known. 15-20794, 16-20809 and 16-20811. Number 4 is the unknown UH-60 which land in RS on the 01st June and departed on the 04th June as Army73122formation.

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Re: Port visit Zeebrugge 2018

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Canadian frigate HMCS Halifax will visit Zeebrugge from 10nov 08:00 till 15nov 08:30. It could carry a helicopter, but not confirmed.
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