2022-2023 onwards: Norwegian NH90s phase-out/replacement. Updates, developments, etc...

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2022-2023 onwards: Norwegian NH90s phase-out/replacement. Updates, developments, etc...

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...this will send shockwaves for years to come... :shock:

Replacement with Sikorsky helicopters in (the near) future :?:

Possibly updates in the coming months/years in this news topic...

https://scramble.nl/military-news/norwa ... g-the-nh90 :wink:
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Norway terminates its contract for the NH90
News story | Date: 10/06/2022

– Regrettably we have reached the conclusion that no matter how many hours our technicians work,
and how many parts we order,
it will never make the NH90 capable of to meeting the requirements of the Norwegian Armed Forces.

Based on a joint recommendation by the Armed Forces and associated departments and agencies,
the Norwegian Government has therefore decided to end
the introduction of the NH90
and has authorized the Norwegian Defence Material Agency to terminate the contract,
said Norwegian Minister of Defence, Mr. Bjørn Arild Gram.

The Norwegian Defence Material Agency has subsequently informed the manufacturer of the NH90,
NATO Helicopter Industries (NHI), that it has terminated the contract in its entirety,

and that it will be seeking full restitution of all funds and assets received by both parties.

The Agency will now begin preparations to return the helicopters along with any spares and equipment received.

It will also request a refund from NHI,
which will include the approximately NOK five billion
it has paid under the contract,
in addition to interest and other expenses.

– We have made repeated attempts at resolving the problems related to the NH90 in cooperation with NHI,
but more than 20 years :!: after the contract was signed,
we still don’t have helicopters capable of performing the missions for which they were bought,
and without NHI being able to present us with any realistic solutions,
said Gro Jære, Director General of the Norwegian Defence Materiel Agency.

Norway’s acquisition of the NH90 began in 2001,
with 14 helicopters for Coast Guard and Anti-Submarine Warfare duties originally slated for delivery by the end of 2008.

As of today, only eight have been delivered in a fully operational configuration.
The fleet is currently required to provide 3.900 flight hours annually
but in recent years it has averaged only about 700 hours.

The Norwegian Ministry of Defence in February 2022 requested that the Armed Forces,
along with the Norwegian Defence Materiel Agency and the Norwegian Defence Research Establishment,
conduct a comprehensive review of Norway’s maritime helicopter capabilities.

The review concluded that even with significant additional financial investments,
it would not be possible to bring the performance and availability of the NH90
to a level that would meet Norwegian requirements.

– This is the right decision for the NH90 and for our maritime helicopter capability,
and in line with our recommendation, said Norwegian Chief of Defence, General Eirik Kristoffersen.

Due to the contract termination, Norwegian flight operations with the NH90 will be discontinued,
and any planned future missions will be cancelled.

Any Armed Forces personnel affected by the termination will receive immediate follow-up through their respective units.


– I am impressed by the efforts made by our organization and everyone who have worked so hard to make the NH90 deliver.
This has not been a question of lack of effort, creativity, and skill,
but quite simply that we have received a helicopter that has not been able to deliver.

Also, even though we are now moving on from the NH90,
we still need the support of those who have been working on the helicopter.

My priority now is therefore to take care of everyone who has worked on the NH90, said General Kristoffersen.

Norwegian need for maritime helicopters remains

The Norwegian Ministry of Defence will shortly begin the process of identifying an alternative maritime helicopter. :!:

– Norway continues to have a requirement for maritime helicopters,
and it is therefore essential that we quickly begin preparations to fill the capability gap left by the NH90. :!:

We will consider several alternative approaches to meeting our operational requirements,
but we must be prepared for the fact that there will be no easy solutions,
said Minister of Defence Bjørn Arild Gram.


He also praises the efforts of everyone within the Norwegian Armed Forces and the Norwegian Defence Material Agency
who have worked on the NH90.

– I hope that many of them will also be able to join us as we work to identify the best way of addressing our continuing maritime helicopter requirements, said Minister of Defence Gram.
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Re: 2022 onwards: Norwegian NH90s phase-out/replacement. Updates, developments, etc...

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20 Years and still no acceptable solution? Were the expectations too ambitious or has the manufacturer promised unachievable goals? :shock:
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This is not the first time that problems with the NH90 emerge. I am starting to believe that the NH90 is pretty much a total failure and that it is a bold move from the Norwegians to pull the plug.. A decision that can't be easy.
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Fishbed_9307 wrote: 10 Jun 2022, 15:28 This is not the first time that problems with the NH90 emerge. I am starting to believe that the NH90 is pretty much a total failure and that it is a bold move from the Norwegians to pull the plug. A decision that can't be easy.
The not easy part is probably the fact they are left for an other couple of years without a descent platform. as any other helicopter that will be ordered will take some years to produce.

And they are not the first to cancel!
Australia (MRH) and Belgium (TTH) also announced stopping operating them.
And looking and the Dutch and Swedish ones. It seems to me they had multiple update and upgrade the past 10 -15 years. But still are not all completely up to the promised operating levels.

To complex to many versions and a consortium not able to produce and support their product!?
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Total failure seems to be a valid qualification by now. Extremely painful is the decision of Australia to procure Blackhawks, the same helicopter that the NH-90 was supposed to replace...
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....well, no surprise. The official initial reaction of NHI :| :

https://helihub.com/2022/06/10/nhindust ... rmination/
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http://www.nhindustries.com/website/en/ ... t_175.html
10 June 2022

NHIndustries statement regarding Norwegian Ministry of Defence announcement to terminate NH90 contract

NHIndustries is extremely disappointed
by the decision taken by the Norwegian Ministry of Defence
and refutes the allegations being made against the NH90 as well as against the Company.

NHIndustries was not offered the possibility to discuss the latest proposal
made to improve the availability of the NH90 in Norway
and to address the specific Norwegian requirements.

NHIndustries considers this termination to be legally groundless.

The NH90's inherent characteristics offer any armed forces with an advanced,
fully integrated mission capability, survivability, speed, range of action, discretion as well as night and all-weather operations
without equal in the world in its category.

In its naval configuration, it is an incomparable asset to answer the needs of Norwegian Armed Forces,
allowing the most advanced surveillance capabilities in the North Sea,
just as the NH90 is doing elsewhere across Europe at sea protecting nations.

NHIndustries and its Partner Companies are,
and have continuously been absolutely committed to addressing the concerns previously expressed
and have brought the appropriate and tailored solutions to the table
to meet the specific and unique Norwegian requirements. :|

With 13 helicopters delivered out of 14 and the fourteenth ready for acceptance,
we were close to finalizing the main scope of the initial contract.
...what was so "specific and unique"
about the
"Norwegian requirements" :?: :| :?

"Legally groundless".
Well, see you in court, then... :|
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Could there be a chance our own Dutch navy will get rid of them too?
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Stratofreighter wrote: 11 Jun 2022, 00:44 ....well, no surprise. The official initial reaction of NHI :| :

https://helihub.com/2022/06/10/nhindust ... rmination/
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http://www.nhindustries.com/website/en/ ... t_175.html
10 June 2022

NHIndustries statement regarding Norwegian Ministry of Defence announcement to terminate NH90 contract

NHIndustries is extremely disappointed
by the decision taken by the Norwegian Ministry of Defence
and refutes the allegations being made against the NH90 as well as against the Company.

NHIndustries was not offered the possibility to discuss the latest proposal
made to improve the availability of the NH90 in Norway
and to address the specific Norwegian requirements.

NHIndustries considers this termination to be legally groundless.

The NH90's inherent characteristics offer any armed forces with an advanced,
fully integrated mission capability, survivability, speed, range of action, discretion as well as night and all-weather operations
without equal in the world in its category.

In its naval configuration, it is an incomparable asset to answer the needs of Norwegian Armed Forces,
allowing the most advanced surveillance capabilities in the North Sea,
just as the NH90 is doing elsewhere across Europe at sea protecting nations.

NHIndustries and its Partner Companies are,
and have continuously been absolutely committed to addressing the concerns previously expressed
and have brought the appropriate and tailored solutions to the table
to meet the specific and unique Norwegian requirements. :|

With 13 helicopters delivered out of 14 and the fourteenth ready for acceptance,
we were close to finalizing the main scope of the initial contract.
...what was so "specific and unique"
about the
"Norwegian requirements" :?: :| :?

"Legally groundless".
Well, see you in court, then... :|
Well I guess that from all the NH90 users the Norwegians are operating them in the harshest environment and this will no doubt translate itself in additional requirements.

And I would have been very surprised when NHIndustries would have accepted the Norwegian decision. Really not very good marketing for them. And I am not a lawyer but 13 out of 14 delivered (not even) operational after 20 years will not impress any court I suspect.. 🥴
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15 Feb 2023
NH90 continues to cause discussion in Norway
The Norwegian opposition put a motion in parliament to a vote in December 2022
to reactivate the agreement with NHI-Industries,
but it was voted down by the governing parties.
...lots more thru
https://www.helispot.nl/hs/page/detail. ... ub=logboek
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https://www-helispot-nl.translate.goog/ ... r_pto=wapp
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