Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September 2018 - Belgian Air Force Days

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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days

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Maurice wrote:Any clue which of the Spanish Hornets did the Sunday display? Thanks!
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days

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SWAT 11 wrote:Our log from Sunday!

flying / other side
H21 A109BA 1 wing Belgian Air Component
H44 A109BA 1 wing Belgian Air Component
H45 A109BA 1 wing Belgian Air Component
H21 was this the demo? i have noted H29 (also on picture)
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days

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FISHER01 wrote:
SWAT 11 wrote:Our log from Sunday!

flying / other side
H21 A109BA 1 wing Belgian Air Component
H44 A109BA 1 wing Belgian Air Component
H45 A109BA 1 wing Belgian Air Component
H21 was this the demo? i have noted H29 (also on picture)
h21 spare
h29 demo
h24 old demo c/s static
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days

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warbird_nl wrote:How many Rafales were present at KB this weekend?

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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days

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Withnail wrote:Did the Slovakian C-27 leave on Friday?
Departed monday
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days

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Buccaneer S.2B wrote:Goof afternoon,

a few additions:
flying only (after the show) for traffic control was MD900 G-14
Rafale C 130 / 4-GI in special c/s did the Sunday demo
NH90TTH RN06 was seen flying at 18.30 PM

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Is 130 a visual? I could not discover a serial.
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days

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No. That cannot be a visual as the serial is NOT carried externally on this bird. However, since quite a few years now, the tie up between serial and code (wing number and last two letters of the radio call) has been fixed. Thus, 4-GI cannot have another serial than 130. This is true for ALL air force aircraft. For army aircraft, the serial and the last 3 of the radio call have also become an unchangeable combination. So, NH90 "EAV" will always be serial 1335.
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days

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frank kramer wrote:No. That cannot be a visual as the serial is NOT carried externally on this bird. However, since quite a few years now, the tie up between serial and code (wing number and last two letters of the radio call) has been fixed. Thus, 4-GI cannot have another serial than 130. This is true for ALL air force aircraft. For army aircraft, the serial and the last 3 of the radio call have also become an unchangeable combination. So, NH90 "EAV" will always be serial 1335.
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days

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vico wrote:h21 spare
h29 demo
h24 old demo c/s static
H24 is NOT correct. The bird on the static is H16! (Photoproof) This is the travelling exhibit that used to be painted blue. It got a makeover last year and was seen as such and checked at the 2017 fly-in at Schaffen.
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days

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SWAT 11 wrote:
Maurice wrote:Any clue which of the Spanish Hornets did the Sunday display? Thanks!
15-26
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days

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Funny to see the percentage WFU (vloogtuigen) and wooden airplanes increases..
H16, FA05, and the pliewood at the end of the static F-35, F-23 and Tyffi...

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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days

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F-16AM FA104 at the static was marked with old full color 349sm fintip markings. Is this viper still operational or in use as a instructional airframe?
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days

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The note about wooden planes makes me wonder ...
Returning from a non-hobby trip only Sunday afternoon I decided doing the 1 1/2 hours drive to see what I can still get at KB, reaching Kaulille around 16.30 Sunday. My targets were M-502, 1335/EAV, 6013/BJM, ZK025, 19611, 6107 and MM7359, after luckily 62-3556 flew over me around Weert.
Light was opposite so I decided not even trying to still get in, but just go for the numbers from outside. 25 min walk from Kaulille through the fields took me close to the approach, and after the last Alpha Jet had landed and Police concentrated on traffic I could move around normally.
Light was nearly opposite, gave me some problems with the helis in the distance, my other 'needed ones' incl. 6107 not a problem, latest when the F-35 was towed.
What I seemingly saw was, starting behind the CH-47, in sequence:
- Tigre (left its position around 19:00!?)
- French NH.90 (obviously towed around 19:00)
- 3x Merlin
- EC.120 (plus other stuff ...)

While H44 and H45 flew once with RS05 and once with RN06, I saw a grey NH.90 only from behind, which should have been RN04 based on this report, right?

And back to the wooden planes:
I noted 3 Typhoons:
1x with red 100 yrs fin, next to a drone as I thought
1x normal c/s in static, next to F-35 before that one moved
1x normal c/s on the other side
Was one of them a mock-up? Just for completeness sake ... ;-)

Thanks in advance for any confirmation about the position of the helis behind the Chinook!

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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days

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The one on the taxitrack nr the F35 and Rafale was real. On the grass nr the taxitrack you could find three mock ups; F35, Typhoon and Tempest (new British stealth technology thing)
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days

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What I seemingly saw was, starting behind the CH-47, in sequence:
- Tigre (left its position around 19:00!?)
- French NH.90 (obviously towed around 19:00)
- 3x Merlin
- EC.120 (plus other stuff ...)
In order:
-Dutch CH-47
-Dutch AH-64
-Belgian Alouette 3
-Belgian MD.900
-Tigre
-French NH.90
-Danish EH.101
-Austrian Alouette 3
-Royal Navy Merlin
-Portuguese EH.101
(the French EC.120 was somewhere in between those, but since that is civil I didn't write it down....).
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